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    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

  • #2
    She may be "lucky," if you catch my drift, if she's dead.

    I really hope in the occupation phase, we can identify the units and individuals who handled those troops, so they can be dealt with appropriately.
    When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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    • #3
      I catch your drift fully.

      There will be a war crimes tribunal.
      Last edited by DanS; March 27, 2003, 14:20.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        Linking to an article from The Sun should be a bloody crime. That's the first thing I think when I see a story from the Sun, rather than the sympathy I should be feeling.

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        • #5
          Ahhh, you silly conservatives, always so ready to return an eye for an eye.
          Her death is without question a tragedy, just as all the deaths that this war have caused are.
          http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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          • #6
            If women join, they know there are risks.
            There are certainly some places worse than others to take the risks.

            Unemployment is surely a motivation to join.

            There's a woman here in town that was in Reserves, seeing it as extra money.
            She got called up, and freaked out.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              How can there be a war crimes tribunal if all the guilty parties are dead?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by monkspider
                Ahhh, you silly conservatives, always so ready to return an eye for an eye.
                Her death is without question a tragedy, just as all the deaths that this war have caused are.
                it appears somebody didn't catch the drift...
                "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                • #9
                  I'm vaguely sure this is going to turn me into Starchild Flambé (add a dash more brandy hun, I'll forgive as I cook), but how is this more tragic than if a 19 year old man died? I mean, yes, it's horrible and tragic, but why does it being a woman make it more tragic?
                  Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                  -Richard Dawkins

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UberKruX


                    it appears somebody didn't catch the drift...
                    How so, comrade?
                    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Starchild
                      I'm vaguely sure this is going to turn me into Starchild Flambé (add a dash more brandy hun, I'll forgive as I cook), but how is this more tragic than if a 19 year old man died? I mean, yes, it's horrible and tragic, but why does it being a woman make it more tragic?
                      Because women aren't allowed into front-line combat. It is an exception to the rule when one of them is killed in combat.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by monkspider
                        Ahhh, you silly conservatives, always so ready to return an eye for an eye.
                        Her death is without question a tragedy, just as all the deaths that this war have caused are.
                        No, some deaths in this war will not be tragic. Maybe someday you can talk with people who've been on the receiving end of this regime, and get a sense of what their experiences have been.

                        The one thing I really hope, and it's not likely to happen with this administration or any future ones (or most other countries in this world) is that in the future, we do not support this type of brutal, dictatorial regime for reasons of geopolitical expediency.

                        That's a separate issue though from dealing with the removal of this regime and it's henchmen.
                        When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

                          The one thing I really hope, and it's not likely to happen with this administration or any future ones (or most other countries in this world) is that in the future, we do not support this type of brutal, dictatorial regime for reasons of geopolitical expediency.
                          Saudi Arabia, anyone?

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                          • #14
                            but how is this more tragic than if a 19 year old man died

                            The circumstances of her death. This was with the supply train that was ambushed, and had executed soldiers (bullets through forehead) shown on Iraqi national TV.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Starchild
                              I'm vaguely sure this is going to turn me into Starchild Flambé (add a dash more brandy hun, I'll forgive as I cook), but how is this more tragic than if a 19 year old man died? I mean, yes, it's horrible and tragic, but why does it being a woman make it more tragic?
                              Most deaths in this war are tragic - not the regime *******s, but civilians, certainly, and ordinary soldiers on both sides as well.

                              A 19 year old male infantryman knows and is trained for the risks. It's still tragic, but it's a bit different than the 19 year old (male or female) who is a clerk, or joined to learn a trade as a mechanic or something.

                              This soldier wasn't a fighter, she was a young kid, a clerk, from an economically depressed part of the US, where the Army was a shot at a trade and money to go to college and get a better life for herself. It sucks when any of them die, but she was about as far removed as a threat as anyone in the military could be.
                              When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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