Bush Speech Thread

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
I believe the 1982 war was the one when Israel introduced drones and pretty much fooled Syria's SAM's. There was some place in Syria called, "death valley," and it was lined up with so many anti-aircraft missles it was feared that the Israelis couldn't get through it. But they used drones which sent out radar signatures and caused the SAM's to lock on.

Somebody correct my fuzzy details.

There were some other problems. I remember reading a paper done by some officer in the Air Force on this subject. IIRC, the Syrians did some boneheaded things like putting radar stations in valleys, instead of on top of hills. (This was about 15 years ago, and I don't remember the journal name at all, much less the date. So my details are fuzzy as well.)

[ThePlagueRat]

Muxec, pres.Bush also have WoMD and should be sanctioned by UN and its weapons inspector. Hmm, why does it never happen?!


In fact pres.Truman ordered their use of nukes in 1945. More than 200.000 civilians killed and many more mutilated for generations. See that old footage of burnt babies and cry.
Truman and his US-generals was responsible for mass genocide!
He should been captured and prosecuted just as we did to Milosevic. But no suprise... neither did that happen.

The only nation who did ever nuke another is still USA.
Has the japanese prime minister forgotten the sad parts of his nation's history? What is this world thinking about allowing the unpredictable USA to carry WoMD?

[muxec]

Muxec, pres.Bush also have WoMD and should be sanctioned by UN and its weapons inspector. Hmm, why does it never happen?!

Because USA is democratic and rich country. Rich country are not inspected not because they bribe others, but because they know that starting the nuke war will make THEM suffer.

I think that three major sourses of worldwide danger are North Korea, Pakistan and Iraq. Poor dictatures with ****ing goverments.

[Chemical Ollie]

I think the speech seemed to be aimed at getting more applause from the domestic trailer-park thrash, but not much else. Educated, thinking Americans and the rest of the world will not believe the lies he told to motivate the war.

[MrFun]

I am worried about United States' position in today's world.

On 9/11 we lost 3,000 lives from terrorist attacks. Yet, in the past decades, Latin American countries and SE Asian countries have losted hundreds of thousands of lives from terrorist attacks. Some of these terrorist groups were trained by the CIA and the School of America.

So we wonder why post-9/11 sympathy had long runned thin.

And we're doing a great job in antagonizing our allies with our drum-beatings over upcoming war against Iraq. Yes, France has its own selfish interests in trying to prevent war against Iraq, but United States is also guilty of providing chemical weapons to Saddam Hueissen. After all, this is one of the dictators who was allied with the United States. In the past, United States has propped up dictatorships all across the world.

No one can predict how the chain of events will unfold, but I am sincerely worried about my country and our position in today's world.

The United States needs to stop sponsoring dictatorships in this world, and the United States needs to abolish all programs that train terrorist groups in other countries. I think these are the two main reasons why so many other countries are alienated by our actions

[rah]

Thank you.

RAH

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre
I think the speech seemed to be aimed at getting more applause from the domestic trailer-park thrash, but not much else. Educated, thinking Americans and the rest of the world will not believe the lies he told to motivate the war.

So basically, if someone disagrees with you then he's not "educated" or "thinking"? How convenient. Does this mean I should comment quite praisingly on the majesty of your imperial vestments as well to further prove that I'm "educated" and "thinking"?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by rah
Thank you.

RAH

You're welcome -- sorry about the creation of a needless new thread.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
Muxec, pres.Bush also have WoMD and should be sanctioned by UN and its weapons inspector. Hmm, why does it never happen?!


In fact pres.Truman ordered their use of nukes in 1945. More than 200.000 civilians killed and many more mutilated for generations. See that old footage of burnt babies and cry.
Truman and his US-generals was responsible for mass genocide!
He should been captured and prosecuted just as we did to Milosevic. But no suprise... neither did that happen.

The only nation who did ever nuke another is still USA.
Has the japanese prime minister forgotten the sad parts of his nation's history? What is this world thinking about allowing the unpredictable USA to carry WoMD?

We did it to stop a war. Your boy Stalin and Hitler did it for the fun of it (mass genocide).

[ThePlagueRat]

Originally posted by muxec
I think that three major sourses of worldwide danger are North Korea, Pakistan and Iraq. Poor dictatures with ****ing goverments.

USA is actually in this category. Ok, they have a lot of money, but they are still a risk to worldwide security and threatening world peace. As they did in the Bay of Pigs, when involving NATO allies into a potetial nuclear sacrifice.

The propaganda machine which feeds us all with nice ideals and intentions from the Bush administation don't work on people like me. I happen to live in a so called democracy, and it's just a big lie. Them politicians don't care if the friggin world collapses. All they want is money and their god forsaken dignity...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MrFun


You're welcome -- sorry about the creation of a needless new thread.

Let's not forget repeating it in at least one other thread.

[Ned]

Originally posted by MrFun
I am worried about United States' position in today's world.

On 9/11 we lost 3,000 lives from terrorist attacks. Yet, in the past decades, Latin American countries and SE Asian countries have losted hundreds of thousands of lives from terrorist attacks. Some of these terrorist groups were trained by the CIA and the School of America.

So we wonder why post-9/11 sympathy had long runned thin.

And we're doing a great job in antagonizing our allies with our drum-beatings over upcoming war against Iraq. Yes, France has its own selfish interests in trying to prevent war against Iraq, but United States is also guilty of providing chemical weapons to Saddam Hueissen. After all, this is one of the dictators who was allied with the United States. In the past, United States has propped up dictatorships all across the world.

No one can predict how the chain of events will unfold, but I am sincerely worried about my country and our position in today's world.

The United States needs to stop sponsoring dictatorships in this world, and the United States needs to abolish all programs that train terrorist groups in other countries. I think these are the two main reasons why so many other countries are alienated by our actions

What do you mean, "sponsor?"

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Sinapus


So basically, if someone disagrees with you then he's not "educated" or "thinking"? How convenient. Does this mean I should comment quite praisingly on the majesty of your imperial vestments as well to further prove that I'm "educated" and "thinking"?

Sinapus : do you really believe your administration will dramatically increase its military budget and deficit (which is also yours), throw billions out of the window and risk American lives to save foreign people for a dictatorship ? Do you really believe the Hawks that rule the White House are that altruistic ?

[Ned]

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat


USA is actually in this category. Ok, they have a lot of money, but they are still a risk to worldwide security and threatening world peace. As they did in the Bay of Pigs, when involving NATO allies into a potetial nuclear sacrifice.

The propaganda machine which feeds us all with nice ideals and intentions from the Bush administation don't work on people like me. I happen to live in a so called democracy, and it's just a big lie. Them politicians don't care if the friggin world collapses. All they want is money and their god forsaken dignity...

Bay of Pigs? I think you mean the Cuban Missile Crisis.

the PlagueRat, are you North Korean?

[Ned]

Spiffor, I see that de Gaulle's succesor has said that France would send troops if Saddam used WoMD. This would be a very positive sign. However, why wait until he actually used them? We have evidence is Republican Guards have been given shells with VX and Mustard gas. Isn't this enough for France?

But it is interesting that use of WoMD operates in the real world exactly like it does in SMAC - the whole world declares war on you.