Bush Speech Thread

[Lincoln]

You still do not answer my question. I think (in answer to yours) that he would resign before he would tell a lie of such magnitude for Bush or anyone else.

[Sava]

Perhaps Lincoln... but if the facts are so compelling, how come most of what the Bush admin releases is either fabricated, outdated and plagerized, or missing important facts. I mean, I believe probably has something stashed away somewhere. But why can't the US just lay evidence on the table and say, here it is. Instead, I hear political rhetoric, and like you, I don't trust much of anything politicians say. And frankly, I don't believe Bush's assertion that inspections and sanctions aren't working in the containment of Saddam.

Also, I don't know if I mentioned this or not, but I saw Daschle's little response. This man is a little weasel with nothing relevant or intelligent to say.

EDIT: I understand that insulting 'Poly posters is wrong. I wasn't aware I'm not to insult members of the US government... sorry...

[Lincoln]

Well Sava, at least we agree on Daschle. Did your see Powell's presentation before the UN btw (about a month ago)?

[Sava]

Yes, but I guess I can't comment on Powell anymore.

[SlowwHand]

Oh, stuff it, Sava. You bonehead.

[ThePlagueRat]

venom is dripping from your lips as you try to insite a flame war...

I did not intend to do so. Nobody should feel hurt or anything. Sorry, but I am just angry at some politicians.
For the dripping of venom, it's nothing dangerous... just a mild blackplague coming.

[Lincoln]

Well don't be dripping any of it around here...

[Ming]

We've pretty much stated that through out the next few weeks, our tolerance for flame wars will be zero.

Personal insults... and posts meant to insight flame wars WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

Again... you are welcome to your opinion, but you better be pretty damn careful how you say it.

[Sava]

forgive me if this crosses the line Ming...

My opinion is that Powell is a puppet for the Bush admin. I don't mean to start a flame-war with this statement, it's my personal opinion. I apologize in advance if this offends anyone who happens to disagree with me. Hopefully I won't get banned for this.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lincoln
So you think he has integrity but he is a liar? He made his statements before the UN. Did he lie to the world because he is loyal to Bush while also being a liar?

Sometimes a politician has to make a choice between his integrity towards the public and his loyalty to political friends / allies. Most politicians have to say something they deeply disagree with at some time of their career, because they are speakers for an organization they do not fully control.
It is very possible Powell accepted to lie in order to keep the cohesion of the admin.

[ThePlagueRat]

Forgive me too for being a plague sometimes. :

I will never try to incite a flame war.
My opinion is that Washington DC has been the puppet master behind many regimes in which they knew were violating human rights, and that the current hatred against USA can be explained by that foreign policy. I think it's sad, because I wish all people well.

These U.S. involvements is so well documented by neutral sources, but the major TV and Radio stations won't listen to it and buys the Washinton story, and just broadcast mindless info day after day. People got to search like crazy to find the truth...

[Dis]

here's the link to the article that the Iraqis are preparing to surrender.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81446,00.html

Getting to Bagdhad will be easy. I see no serious opposition. I am a little worried about how the war in the city will go though.

[SlowwHand]

Hey, Rat. The majority of the U.S. doesn't give a royal Sandanavian rat's ass what you think about it.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Sometimes a politician has to make a choice between his integrity towards the public and his loyalty to political friends / allies. Most politicians have to say something they deeply disagree with at some time of their career, because they are speakers for an organization they do not fully control.
It is very possible Powell accepted to lie in order to keep the cohesion of the admin.

It is also very possible that he told the truth. He has no past history of lying that I know of. And he opposed Bush in the beginning and even stated at one point that he would likely not be a member of his next administration if he is reelected. A change came over him. I think it is because of the evidence that he uncovered. I think the burden of proof is on the people who think he is a liar. Where is your evidence of his past lies?

[Ming]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Hey, Rat. The majority of the U.S. doesn't give a royal Sandanavian rat's ass what you think about it.

And slow... comments like that will have you sitting on the sidelines for the war as well..

BE CIVIL DAMN IT!