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  • Long Live Freedom of Speech!!!!


    Mod's Suck!!! Banana's Rule!!!!




    I know, I'm banned.



    You all get the point now?



    Monkey.
    Monkey!!!

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    • Originally posted by Ming


      Oh... they can express their opinions, and NOT accept the consequences... Special treatment for musicians?
      You sure like harping on that one don't you? Should musicians keep their mouths shut regardless of how they feel about an issue? How's that for special treatment? The general public can say what they want, but a public entertainer can't have an opinion. That sounds fair!

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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        Did the Dixie Chicks go to the workplaces of their fans and try to get them fired?


        Did the fans of the Dixie Chicks go to the record company and try to get them fired?
        They went to the radio stations, same thing in that business.

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        • Actually... this is also a PRIVATELY owned site.

          And the owners have the right to limit what is being said ON THEIR SITE... Just like the Radio Stations have the right to play the music they want to
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • Whatever happened to the right to hate the Dixie Chicks?
            "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

            Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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            • Originally posted by Pyrodrew


              Much like the DixieChic was the only example you found.
              Yeah right, the McCarthy days never happened. John Lennon as someone mentioned? The US has a long history of someone stepping in and dictating what gets presented to the public, one way or another.

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              • when the following equation is true:

                those who are offended >>>>> then those who are not

                then you get F'd

                welcome to democracy and the limitations of Free Speech...

                But, and this is a big but, you can still say it if you want to risk the big F and not face the big D (and I don't mean Dallas).
                Monkey!!!

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                • Originally posted by Willem
                  You sure like harping on that one don't you? Should musicians keep their mouths shut regardless of how they feel about an issue? How's that for special treatment? The general public can say what they want, but a public entertainer can't have an opinion. That sounds fair!
                  I'm harping on it because you seem to think musicians should recieve special treatment.

                  I have never said they should keep their mouths shut, or that they shouldn't have their own opinoins, and that they shouldn't voice them. They have those rights, and I'm 100% behind them having them. I did say they should expect whatever happens when they do... JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE

                  You seem to think that musicians should be able to say whatever they want, and not pay the price for it. But that their fans can't express their opinions... That doesn't sound fair to me...
                  Keep on Civin'
                  RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • Originally posted by Ming


                    So, your point besides artists deserve special treatment, and their fans don't?
                    Give it up Ming, you're starting to sound like a broken record. I'm getting tired of arguing the same point over and over. Try something new for a change.

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                    • Originally posted by Willem
                      They went to the radio stations, same thing in that business.


                      Not even close... And even if they went to the records companies... They could always find a new record company...

                      People in America have been boycotting products for a long time now. Going to companies and telling them they won't buy their products if they continue "some" action. Are you now saying that musicians again deserve special treatment and people shouldn't be allowed this basic freedom/right?
                      Keep on Civin'
                      RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • They went to the radio stations, same thing in that business.




                        Because artists of that nature make their money from the radio?

                        Their album [i]Home[i] has been out for months now. Everyone that listens to Country has heard at least one song from it. To not have it on the radio now doesn't hurt them.

                        Furthermore, the Dixie Chicks are of such popularity (now infamy), that all they'll have to do is announce an album and they are guarenteed huge sales, even without radio airplay.

                        How much you want to bet that this 'ban' is removed in a month?
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
                          Whatever happened to the right to hate the Dixie Chicks?
                          Come on, Willem, it's a simple question.
                          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                          Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                          • Originally posted by Willem
                            Yeah right, the McCarthy days never happened. John Lennon as someone mentioned? The US has a long history of someone stepping in and dictating what gets presented to the public, one way or another.


                            You know he has admitted defeat when he says stuff like that.

                            Please explain how those OTHER EXAMPLES have anything to do with this situation.

                            We have some fans who are pissed at people who they have been supporting, and have excerised their own right of self expression... Not anything like your other examples...

                            Since you are a musician, you just want special treatment. I can understand that... but in America, the fans have rights too... We call it being fair
                            Keep on Civin'
                            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • This is small potatoes compared to the horrible oppression inflicted on artists back during the Disco Demolition, when repression really meant something, dammit. Won't somebody please think of the children.
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                              • Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior

                                That's because you have crap music like Avril, Sheryl, Nickelback, Sum 41, and Shania.
                                And good music like Bruce Cockburn, Tragically Hip, Blue Rodeo, Barenaked Ladies, Crash Test Dummies.

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