Senate Passes Bill Limiting Abortion

[Ben Kenobi]

Sava:

Continuing on with the second post:

Point 1:

"Virginia's House of Delegates approved a bill today that would allow health care workers to invoke a "conscience clause" if they wish to avoid participating in abortion or birth control procedures."

Point 2:

"Supporters of parental consent said it would ensure that parents have a greater say in the health and safety of their daughters. The Senate version includes a provision that allows minors to obtain consent from a judge if their parents refuse to allow an abortion."


Regarding the conscience clause:

Doctors are not required to accede to patient's demands for treatment, especially for a non-medically necessary procedure.

Parental Consent:

Children who are minors have to obtain consent for every other surgical procedure except abortion. Why are they able to consent for abortion, and not for something else?

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Sava
Did you read the second article?

virginia's messed up. *shrug*

[Ramo]

Sava- the bill includes an exception to save the life of the mother.

Source?

[Ben Kenobi]

Necessary as in needed to save the woman's life.

Then why are you opposed to the ban?
The ban allows for this exception!

[Sava]

Arrian: Hey without nuts like me, there wouldn't be any freedoms at all.

obiwan, the consent for abortion part doesn't bother me. It's the consent for treatment of STD's part that does.

[Traianvs]

Well of course, America's big enough for one or two extra inhabitants...

In belgium, abortion should be encouraged

10 million ugly bastards is about 9 million too much! (of course, compared to the tiny amount of land we own...)

the human race is simply a larger version of a foul virus

[Boris Godunov]

The consent for treating STDs part is ABOMINABLE. So some teen who is sexually active and wants to hide it from his parents is going to forego being treated and probably spread the STD to others more.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ramo:

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=2377444

The current proposal would allow the procedure to save a woman's life -- even though sponsors of the ban say it is never necessary for any reason. Bill sponsor Rick Santorum, a Pennsylvania Republican, called it an "evil, heinous procedure that is outside the bounds of medicine."

Sava:

It's the consent for treatment of STD's part that does.

They'll still be able to get a judicial bypass...

[Ramo]

Yep, just a way to insure that STD's will be ignored instead of treated. Thank God for the morality police.

[St Leo]

Sava

[Shi Huangdi]

Partial Birth Abortion is never nessecary to save the mother's life.

to the Senate

[Ramo]

What are the exact provisions. Because this quote:
""The Senate passed a law that they know is unconstitutional and endangers women's health," said Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, which won a Supreme Court case striking down a similar Nebraska abortion ban three years ago."

seems to imply that the exemptions for the mother's health aren't adequate.

[Sava]

Partial Birth Abortion is never nessecary to save the mother's life.

Where exactly did you get your medical degree huh? Or is this opinion based on your years of experiences in obstetrics? Let me guess, abortion is just a leftist conspiracy

[Sava]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
The consent for treating STDs part is ABOMINABLE. So some teen who is sexually active and wants to hide it from his parents is going to forego being treated and probably spread the STD to others more.

Exactly!

In a related subject, abstinence-only teaching, pushed by the same morons who want to ban abortion, does more to increase abortions and the spread of STD's by not teaching teens and young adults how to live responsible sex lives when they get older.

If the Pro-Life camp wanted to decrease abortions, they'd educate and promote the use of contraceptives rather than trying to take away reproductive rights.

[loinburger]

I propose that Sava be banned from appending that godawful rolleyes smilie to his posts.

But, when in Rome...

Sure Sava, Congress is being sooooo authoritarian by taking away the "right" of a mother to murder her baby. Before you know it, they'll be making thievery illegal too!