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  • #31
    Cite me an example, where the U.S. has ever been the aggressor.

    The Balkan adventures.
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    • #32
      Does Hussein enslave his people?

      That's 1.

      2 & 3 Likely Vietnam.
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      • #33
        Cite me an example, where the U.S. has ever been the aggressor.


        The Mexican War.

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        • #34
          Now you're treading on uninformed, and dangerous, ground.
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          • #35
            Sloww, of course there are countless examples of American aggression. As far as your main question of an American leader killing American civillians on the scale of Sadaam kiling his, I can think of no comparable examples. This does not really matter. Regardless of whether Sadaam is a bad guy or not, that does not mean that we should launch an aggrefssive war against the Iraqi people. If we were really interested in helping the Iraqi people, there are countless ways to peacefully do so, if we wanted to minimize the tyrannical tendencies of the Hussein regime, there are countless ways to do so peacefully. God never gives us a problem that can only be resolved through violence.
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            • #36
              If we were really interested in helping the Iraqi people, there are countless ways to peacefully do so, if we wanted to minimize the tyrannical tendencies of the Hussein regime, there are countless ways to do so peacefully.


              Name some...
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              • #37
                Originally posted by monkspider
                God never gives us a problem that can only be resolved through violence.
                World War II.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                  If we were really interested in helping the Iraqi people, there are countless ways to peacefully do so, if we wanted to minimize the tyrannical tendencies of the Hussein regime, there are countless ways to do so peacefully.


                  Name some...
                  There are always an infinite number of ways, whether I personally am able to think of any or not. Surely you do not think that violence is the only way to accomplish any of the previously stated ideals?
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                  • #39
                    There are always an infinite number of ways, whether I personally am able to think of any or not.


                    So you can't name a single one of your "countless ways"? I figured as much, but I just wanted to make sure...
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc

                      World War II.

                      I once believed that some wars truly are unavoidable, and WW II is the one that I always thought of. Over time, I have realized that there is no such thing as an inevitable war. If the entente were more concillatory at Versailles there would have been no World War II, if powers such as France decieded to abandon the Versailles treaty in the twenties and pursued a policy of friendship with Germany there would have been no world war two, even after Hitler came to power and even after he invaded France, there was still a way to defeat him through peaceful means. It may seem impossible, but with God nothing is impossible.
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                      • #41
                        The Mexican War was not an act of aggression.
                        If it had been, they'd be speaking English, rather than trying to force Spanish down my throat.
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                        • #42
                          World War II.

                          DD:

                          For the US?

                          Stay out of the way of the Soviet Union. Why do they even need the Yanks beyond mercantile support?
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                            There are always an infinite number of ways, whether I personally am able to think of any or not.


                            So you can't name a single one of your "countless ways"? I figured as much, but I just wanted to make sure...
                            Drake, there is a whole country of great thinkers out there. I could offer theoretical solutions, but that is besides the point. There are always an infinite range of possibilities to every situation, and with Iraq it is no different.
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                            • #44
                              The Mexican War was not an act of aggression.
                              If it had been, they'd be speaking English


                              The American Southwest is speaking English...

                              I don't think the Mexican War was wrong, Sloww, but a pretty good case can be made for it being aggressive.
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                              • #45
                                There are always an infinite range of possibilities to every situation, and with Iraq it is no different.


                                Do you actually believe this tripe or are you just trying to confuse me with childish platitudes?
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