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How does mean the navy won the war?! 
California was already liberated and called the Great Bear State under Fremont.
California was already liberated and called the Great Bear State under Fremont.
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That's another biased site Imran. An encyclopedia has a reputation to keep. It's a much more reliable source. Of course there is going to be biased information out there to make the US look good.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Duncan, look at the sources he used. Frankly I think the Encarta Encyclopedia is crap. I have it, and it is useless.
From a PhD.:
Scott took Vera Cruz in March and worked his way slowly but surely, against forces always superior to his own, up to the very gates of Mexico
Furthermore, NorthEast states refused the fun the war on the American side."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Ah, how about the part where the navy takes CA?Originally posted by DinoDoc
That backs up your specious claims in what way, DuncanK?"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Oh look every site that is opposed to mine, EVEN when written by a PHD. is biased
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Encyclopedias always have to be revised because they are consistantly wrong.
There is no sense arguing with you when you say every site opposed to your view is biased and wrong. Why I even bothered is a mystery to me.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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I didn't say they won the war.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
How does mean the navy won the war?!
"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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You aren't looking at the whole picture. You just look at some biased US sites and believe what they tell you. You have to read into the bias of the author when you read stuff like that.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Oh look every site that is opposed to mine, EVEN when written by a PHD. is biased.
Encyclopedias always have to be revised because they are consistantly wrong.
There is no sense arguing with you when you say every site opposed to your view is biased and wrong. Why I even bothered is a mystery to me."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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California was already liberated and called the Great Bear State under Fremont.Originally posted by DuncanK
Ah, how about the part where the navy takes CA?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Indeed.some sensible people left in the world...
US naval supremacy? Standard joke here is the 'Monroe Doctrine' espoused by the Americans and enforced by the British navy. Does anyone have figures on the naval US forces for the time?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by DuncanK
The navy practically won the war by itself in California.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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And they did. The Bear Flag Revolt was no more effort than the efforts of the Navy.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Originally posted by DuncanK
The navy practically won the war by itself in California."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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There is a simple fact that you guys are missing. The war was orchestrated and planned by the US. Imrans sources say that Polk worked for peace during the whole war. That is total crap."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Government spending and the government budget affect every aspect of the economy. And the president controls most of this. This is basic Economics Arrain...Originally posted by Arrian
ARRRRRG! Why oh why do Presidents get credit when the economy is doing well and get criticized when it isn't, when the President has an extremely limited effect on the economy???? This drives me NUTS! The economy, being a capitalist one, has booms and busts - it's a cycle for chrissakes, and the government doesn't have a whole helluva lot to do with it.
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-Arrian
p.s. For the record, I do not agree with Bush's tax cut plan.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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1. I oppose the war since I doubt the ability of our primate-in-chief and his administration to prosecute this war in the interests of justice and liberty. It will be prosecuted in the interests of increasing the authority of the US, completely antithetical to justice and liberty for reasons I've already elaborated on many, many times.
2. The US was unquestionably a stronger country than Mexico prior to the Mexican War. In terms of political unity, economic prosperity, and manpower, the US was unquestionably in the stronger position. Initial military power doesn't win a war. After Santa Anna's centralist coup d'etat in '36, Mexico was in Civil War. Hence, the Republics of Texas, Yucatan, Rio Grande, etc. and even to a certain extent the Bear Flag Republic. This meant that the US could easily mobilize manpower and material, but Mexico, even if it had troops seasoned by continuous rebellion, couldn't. The most important disparity between the American and Mexican armies was that artillery, where the US had the decided advantage.
3. The US started the war, not Mexico. Polk sent an army into the contested territory between the Nueces and Rio Grande to provoke a reaction from Mexico. This comes right after the US annexed Texas. Furthermore, Polk had admitted that sending an army into the no-mans' land was a ploy to provoke reaction, and that if that didn't work, he'd use Mexico's refusal of the US' offer to buy California as a casus belli."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Bill Clinton presided over an economic bubble. Now it popped. I don't blame Clinton for the bubble or Bush because it popped. The problem was and is greed.Comment
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...and by the way: We stole part of Mexico regardless of who had the best military. That is a sad fact of our history that must be faced.Comment
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