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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ned
    The general trend is that the US is wrong, the US is the enemy, the US is responsible for every evil dictator and every torture or murder of a communist everywhere on the planet.

    Tell me this is not true.

    What the left is doing to America through its deliberate lies to our children is evil, IMHO. This is the prime reason, more than any other, that I have turned strongly against the public school system in the US.
    Are the lies of the Right not also deliberately evil?
    I'm sure Ned, if you really tried very hard, you could think of say, at least 5 or 6 regimes which the U.S. supported directly through military aid, indirectly with financial subsidies, intelligence, 'military' advisors, whose crimes against humanity you would consider evil.

    ('the US is responsible for every evil dictator'

    No, Ned, just some on the United States' doorstep- Papa Doc in Haiti, the Somozas in Nicaragua, Pinochet in Chile, the Castillo Armas regime in Guatemala, Trujillo in the Dominican Republic, just as starters.)

    Having watched the likes of Oliver North testify and even a president of the United States affirm he 'didn't know what was going on' (gee, you're only supposed to be in charge, Mr. P.o.t.u.s.!) do you honestly believe the 'lies' are all on one side?
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ned
      I first became aware of what was happening when my daughter returned home from school one day and informed me that John Kennedy was the greatest American president and that Nixon was the worst because he got us into the Vietnam war.
      Take. your. children. out. of. public. schools.

      It doesn't matter who is in charge, education is a propoganda tool, and whoever gets to will push their agenda.
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      • #78
        It doesn't matter who is in charge, education is a propoganda tool, and whoever gets to will push their agenda.
        If the teacher agreed with you, would you pull your child out of the class?

        The solution to teaching our children is not to put them in the 'proper' environment, but to teach them how to spot bias.

        You can remove and remove, yet you will never find a school with teachers who all agree with you.
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        • #79
          I think teachers should be more concerned about their students knowing how to read, write, and solve math problems instead of discussing politics. Your kids should tell their teachers to keep their opinions to themselves and get back to the math problem on the chalk board.
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          • #80
            Spraybar: If a teacher is going to spout off about politics then he should at least have a vague understanding about what he is talking about. Nixon started the Viet Nam war?!?! That fool obviously has no clue about history and I wonder why the hell we trust him to teach children.

            The problem is the government pays teachers crap and treats them like garbage so everyone with any talent leaves. All that is left are the idealistic leftists and hide bound bureaucrats who can't hack it in the private sector. The lefties want to make the world a better place so they over look the poor pay while the bureaucrats know they can't do any better; many from both group really aren't knowledgeable enough to be good teachers.
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            • #81
              Faux News is the reason CNN put in Connie Chung, cause they want to return to ratings primacy, which left some of the old guard at CNN angry since they do want to see themselves as "real news" and not salacious like Faux. Because Faux has close firend in this admin. they can get scoops no one else can" besides that, they are, to me, an absolute joke.
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              • #82
                Sikander, everyone gets to exaggerate now and again. Zkribbler rarely does, so I'd just take the statement as frustration with what he sees wrong with the world. The guy is much more than a political animal looking for a troll. He puts his hard earned money into his beliefs. He's real.
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                • #83
                  I live in Cumberland, Maine (about 20 minutes from Portland) and have heard different reports. Some say it isn't really teachers but is a problem with teachers assistants. However, I can tell you that teachers here, especially in the Cumberland district, are very liberal. It wouldn't surprise me if they are telling the kids these things. Either way it is awful and needs to stop. Teachers should be completely nuetral on all political issues, and if they decide to voice an opinion they should be teaching kids old enough to formulate their own ideas. I guess the problem was found to be big around the 2nd grade.
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                  • #84
                    Well on the one hand teachers from Maine are telling kids that their parents are supporting an unjust war, which is bad.

                    On the other hand Maine teachers taught me how to read in the first grade, something I doubt Baltimore teachers would have ever accomplished, which is good.

                    But on the other hand Mainers use the word 'wicked' an obscene amount of times, which is annoying.

                    And I had to learn a song for all of the Maine counties, which haunts me to this day.

                    So in conclusion, firebomb Lewiston as a warning and threaten to send O'Reilly to the borders, we gotta keep those dirty illegal Canadians out.
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                    • #85
                      However, I can tell you that teachers here, especially in the Cumberland district, are very liberal.
                      ???

                      Compared to what, and defined how?

                      BTW, I don't know if the Cumberland district means Cumberland county (Portland), but I see that Cumberland voted 52% for Gore and another 6% for Nader in 2000. So moderate to liberal would merely be reflecting community values. The anomaly would be if the teachers were conservative.
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