Pardon my asking, but has it suddenly become ok not to hire because one isn't gay?

[Zylka]

You know

I know that this hits sour legal grounds, and rightly so.... but I honestly think in these specific industries it should be the kind of thing where authority looks the other way

Although I really think even a 10$ an hour crap job at the salon would be so much fun... sit around talking about fashion with guys for a change, and maybe take cora-lee back for a bang on lunch hours

Too bad...

[Boris Godunov]

If industries could discriminate in hiring based on the stereotypical demographics of the field, then gays would only be hairdressers, fashion designers, etc. One of the points of progress is moving beyond such notions, for everyone.

[Zylka]

Little confused... Were you almost let go today due to unfair practise of the sort?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Zylka
Little confused... Were you almost let go today due to unfair practise of the sort?

Not almost let go, but almost outed. I am not openly gay at work, though I have never pretended to be straight, and one coworker does know. But the company has embarked on the brilliant idea of trying to coerce us into donating blood as a philanthropic idea, and I had to state that I am prohibited from giving blood...

[Zylka]

Ahahahaha God bless America

[Shi Huangdi]

Are you sure Boris? I though discrimination based on sexual orientation was banned nation-wide.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Are you sure Boris? I though discrimination based on sexual orientation was banned nation-wide.

Absolutely positive. Anti-discrimination laws based on sexual orientation only go state by state. The Republicans have repeatedly blocked attempts to pass a national law, as it is adamantly opposed by the Religious Right.

The states are California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachussetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont and Wisconsin. Not even New York has such a statute.

Clinton signed an executive order prohibiting such discrimination in Federal workplaces, although last I heard there was strong pressure on Bush to rescind it.

EDIT: Oops, forgot Wisconsin. Yay Cheeseheads!

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I had to state that I am prohibited from giving blood...

Hmm, must be because of some medical condition. Did you travel to mad-cow-diseased England or to the malaria-infected tropics? OMG, it's not some sexual transmitted disease?!

[MrFun]

You mean there are Americans who still do not realize that it is still perfectly legal to disciminate against homosexuals??

Progress is coming through the business, city and state levels -- not the federal government level.

[Ben Kenobi]

Boris:
You are right about Canada, no discrimination due to sexual orientation.

Some private organisations are exempt, one example being the Boy Scouts of Canada, which recently won a lengthy court battle.

Trinity Western University, here in BC, won their case as well. They require all students to sign a pledge promising no extra-marital sexual relations. Trinity Western is a Theological college that also provides an elementary school teaching program.

Zylka: No, by law, your employers cannot discriminate based on sexual orientation. They cannot refuse to hire you just because you are straight.

[Asher]

Some private organisations are exempt, one example being the Boy Scouts of Canada, which recently won a lengthy court battle.

I haven't heard about this...

I know the local troops in Calgary (of all places) welcome homosexuals as much as heterosexuals, they strongly emphasized that back when the Boy Scouts of America had that court case about the gay boy who was kicked out.

[Datajack Franit]

Hmm gay soldiers with bayonets...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Zylka
Your sentiments are common sense... but these people absolutely love me - especially in the salon.

Just because people like you personally doesn't mean they think you are qualified for a job. For example, perhaps you are a great person but a slacker, or maybe you are only friendly to some people, or perhaps you act snotty.

About the jobs that require you being homosexual - perhaps they can't handle you hitting on the women customers.

[Ben Kenobi]

I know the local troops in Calgary (of all places) welcome homosexuals as much as heterosexuals, they strongly emphasized that back when the Boy Scouts of America had that court case about the gay boy who was kicked out.

The 'exemption' does not bar scout troops that do want to hire homosexuals from doing so.

[Solly]

I think most trendy bars run this way. They want guys behind the bar that look like they just stepped out of a catalogue. That's why they want gays probably.

You know, with all the messy blonde-tipped hair.