Massive World Protests Tomorrow

[KrazyHorse]

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/uk.asp

750 000/58 789 194 = 1.276%

[David Floyd]

David, your logic on what a government can and can't do or expect from its people is severely flawed. Government's primary function is to protect the people,

Wrong. Government's primary function is to prevent and punish the violation of individual rights.

yet it can't require the people to participate in their own protection?

No, that would be a violation of the primary function of government.

I agree with the notion that drafting for a foreign, political war (such as Vietnam) is wrong. But helping out an ally is a just cause.

Fine, then, smart guy. If you say the government's primary function is the protection of its own people, how is the US government protecting Americans by allying with some country like Kuwait or South Korea?

Saying the British people had no obligation to help Poland after Hitler's invasion is just plain wrong.

No one ever has an obligation to die for another person.

You always complain about how the poor benefit from taxes that are stolen from the rich, yet your position here is completely hypocritical. The people benefit from the protection of the government, yet don't have to contribute to it?

Again, how does it benefit the people of Britain to ally with Poland, rather than with Nazi Germany? Not that I'm saying the British should ally with the Nazis, just that it would seem more beneficial to ally with a strong country than a weak one, no?

Mandatory military service and the draft are sometimes necessary and completely justified.

Bull****.

Your assertion that they are wrong in such a general way is wrong, and given your stance on taxes, completely hypocritical.

No, I'm not being hypocritical, if anyone is, you are.

[Ted Striker]

Hey, hey, hey, let's keep the hypocrite accusations to the libertarian threads please.

[David Floyd]

*shrug* He started it.

[Ted Striker]

I'm just having fun with ya Floyd.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well, the vocal minority make their voices heard. Though, I'm guessing the silent majority (in the US) will have their way in the end.

[Ted Striker]

I think most of these protesters could care less about the actual peace part of it.

Alot of them are just in it for the kicks of making witty signs and feeling important.

But hey actor Tim Robbins says no war so that changed my mind. yeah right

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
I think most of these protesters could care less about the actual peace part of it.

Alot of them are just in it for the kicks of making witty signs and feeling important.

But hey actor Tim Robbins says no war so that changed my mind. yeah right

You have absolutely no idea, do you?


PS. And there is no "silent majority" - there never is - it's just a conservative creation.

[Dinner]

I'd say there is a silent majority. The big media states like California and New York create alot of what people precieve to be American public opinion but then theres all those people living in the states in between who often don't agree with the stances taken in the media.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And there is no "silent majority" - there never is - it's just a conservative creation.

Um... what have you been smoking?

When poll numbers say 55% are pro war, you think some idiot teens on the street represent the majority? Ya gotta be kidding me!

Nixon gets elected to the White House and you think there is no silent majority? What are you nuts?!

I'd say there is a silent majority. The big media states like California and New York create alot of what people precieve to be American public opinion but then theres all those people living in the states in between who often don't agree with the stances taken in the media.

Living in the South now allows me to apprechiate this much better. People just don't agree with "New York" and "Hollywood".

[Bosh]

Was in NY today. My personal guess is that 300k showed up, but its ridiculously hard to make any kind of half-way accurate estimate since we didn't have a march permit so lots of people were scattered all over the place or strung out on sidewalks. Wesleyan managed to live up to its reputation and we went a full 8 busloads of people as well as plenty in cars. The whole place was insanely crowded the whole time, to the extent that we couldn't even really get Wes people together but that didn't stop us from getting a good samba band going

[Dis]

any news stories on this?

I don't think anyone protested in Las Vegas. Although I missed the beginning of the late news.

[Demerzel]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[q]When poll numbers say 55% are pro war, you think some idiot teens on the street represent the majority? Ya gotta be kidding me!

I distrust polls to the same extent that I distrust "TV audience figures" - they are all extrapolated from a very small polling audience indeed. If you have only a 1000 people polled then you're using for Britain just 0.0017% of the population to reflect the whole country. Naturally this is pretty awful methodology to use these stats as facts.

Problem is whilst more people polled increases accuracy, it quickly becomes impractical.

Sorry, I'm in a sunday afternoon pedantic mood.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Demerzel
Naturally this is pretty awful methodology to use these stats as facts.

How so?

[Demerzel]

read what I just said ffs. Using 0.0017% ( 1000 from 60m ) of a population as that nation's choice is just asking for an insane statistical slew.

It'd be like asking 100 people on here their thoughts and using that as the poll for a world opinion.