Massive World Protests Tomorrow

[Spiffor]

Devilmunchkin :
Put simply, the war is supported by most of the US. And the US is always right. "La loi du plus fort est toujours la meilleure" (La Fontaine)

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Devilmunchkin :
Put simply, the war is supported by most of the US. And the US is always right. "La loi du plus fort est toujours la meilleure" (La Fontaine)

[Picture with a guy showing the way to send the US packing:]

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Sava
So you're going to flat out lie? You've said, numerous times, that these protestors are supporting Saddam with their actions. It's one thing to be wrong, Oerdin, which you are, it's another to lie. Misrepresenting? How did I misrepresent that assertion? I simply pointed out how stupid and ignorant it is.

Sava: One of three things is happening here. Either you are illiterate and unable to read, you are to stupid to understand the argument presented, or you are intentionally choosing to misrepresent what was said. I'd say you're not stupid and you're not illiterate so you must just be so rapped into your ideology that you are willing to blatantly lie in order to defend it.

For the third and last time; GO BACK AND READ EXACTLY WHAT I AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE WROTE!!! Pay close attention to key ideas like intent verses real world outcome. Several people have taken a great deal of time to try to explain a position to you and the only thing you can do is lie about what they said. What does that say about you, Sava?

[Sultan Bhargash]

Ooh, ooh, my favorite debate. Protesters supporting Saddam? That's the spin a lot of people not intelligent enough to think in color give it, while nothing could be farther from the truth. Amazing how people can jump to the defense of Bush when he's managed to turn the whole world against himself. People who protest the war are standing up to Al Qaeda, a group thriving on the current climate of worldwide terror and opposition and interventionism which is hoping Bush is given free reign to ruin America and turn the world against us. People who protest the war are sick of the bull**** excuses these jar heads make up to cover their ass for being clueless on all policies foreign and domestic, who are substituting terror on a large scale for a rationale plan to fix the problems they've invited.

[Dinner]

Nice to see Sava got himself a DL. If by some miracle you are not Sava's DL then please accompany Sava and go back and read the original thread. In it numerous people spent a great deal of time discussing the topic and I'm not going to rehash it here.

[Sava]

Sorry, I don't DL... I don't need to hide behind another identity to say what I want to say.

I would have to agree with him. As a real world consiquence to their actions they are supporting Saddam. Sure, this isn't the intent of most of them but that is what their actions are doing.

People should look at the big picture and not worry so much about the penny that they lose a pound.

Here... for all to see...

If I'm misinterpreting what you are trying to convey, then perhaps you need to rephrase it for all of us simple-minded, misguiding leftists "wrapped in our own ideologies".

I even left in your misspellings

You tried to leave a loophole in your trolling, but you failed.

Believe it or not, we both want the same thing. I want Saddam gone. I even support the use of a military operation to do so. But I don't trust Bush's plan, I don't think we should do it without UN support; and if the evidence that Saddam is a direct and immediate threat isn't there, I think we should fry the bigger fish and not waste 100 billion dollars getting Saddam when that money could be used for more productive things domestically.

Put UN peacekeeper troops in Iraq. Give the inspectors more resources. If Saddam is doing something sneaky, they'll find it, the world will see, and we'll have the support we need to get that f*cker. Until then, stop insulting the people you don't agree with, and try finding facts to base your silly assertions on.

Stop making stupid assertions that everyone protesting Bush's policies are helping Saddam. They're untrue, based on no facts, and not worth the memory bytes they take up.

[Dinner]

Here is Sava's accusation:

And there's a huge consensus among the ignorant Hawks that anyone who's against military action as now proposed is against the removal of Saddam, or is a Saddam supporter.

Here is what I had originally said:

I would have to agree with him. As a real world consiquence to their actions they are supporting Saddam. Sure, this isn't the intent of most of them but that is what their actions are doing.

People should look at the big picture and not worry so much about the penny that they lose a pound.

Please notice that Sava contended that anyone who advocated eliminating Saddam felt that Anti-war persons were "against the removal of Saddam, or is a Saddam supporter". I have never said that nor will I ever say that. What I did say is that their intent is not to help Saddam but it is unavoidable that protests do help Saddam to some extent.

Sava lies and pretends that several other people and I have said protesters are deliberately pro-Saddam. This has never been said and is the construct of a lair and troll who deliberately misquotes in order to further his ideology. What he doesn't understand is that lying only makes him look foolish and untrustworthy.

Now, Sava, that I have proven how you lied I am going wash my hands of this and attempt to ignore you.

[Zero]

So... did anyone protest? I heard about a rallying in NYC, because my friends cousin asked if I wanted to go. I didnt know it was some world-wide event... If she was hot I would have said yes. But then again, she pointed out there might be other chicks out there.... I thought about it and now Im wondering if standing out in the cold making a fool of myself was worth the effort.... so did anyone reap the benefit?

[Sava]

Please notice that Sava contended that anyone who advocated eliminating Saddam felt that Anti-war persons were "against the removal of Saddam, or is a Saddam supporter

Wrong.

And there's a huge consensus among the ignorant Hawks that anyone who's against military action as now proposed is against the removal of Saddam, or is a Saddam supporter.

These are my words, cut and pasted. Notice I mentioned there is a "huge consensus among ignorant hawks"... this group of people is different from the other ignorant hawks who don't think that protestors are helping Saddam. And this is certainly seperate from the informed and intelligent hawks. I never recalled putting you or anyone else, personally, in any of these categories. You apparantly feel that everything I write is about you.
Perhaps it's you that needs to learn to read...

Sava lies and pretends that several other people and I have said protesters are deliberately pro-Saddam

I don't recall mentioning deliberate. I don't recall specifically mentioning you are anyone else on 'Poly.

Don't get mad at me because you are wrong. And resorting to insults certainly helps your cause.

Also, I posting in an open forum and addressing broad groups of people. I didn't address my post to you, I specifically commented on a topic you just happened to bring up.

My point was that: There are people who think that the people protests against the war are helping Saddam. I said I thought those people were wrong. Done. End of story. You misinterpretted this post as a personal attack. It wasn't. And then you continued to insult me.

[Drake Tungsten]

I don't recall specifically mentioning you are anyone else on 'Poly.

You mentioned me specifically when you took my quote out of context. That's what started this whole argument.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If you say so, IS then is must be true. But some proof would be nice

Nixon won the election in 1972 (I'm sure NO protesters were backing him over McGovern).

That, and the Republicans sweeping the Dems in the Senatorial and Congressional elections where a future Iraqi war was known to everyone.

Thanks, now you can commence the eating of the crow .

[KrazyHorse]

If they're a majority, how are they silent?

They've pretty much locked up the networks (who have been chanting for war for the last 6 months)

[Imran Siddiqui]

'Silent Majority' refers to the people who are NOT protesting.

And as someone said, they are also those that don't agree with New York and Hollywood, who basically control the media.

[KrazyHorse]

Then why are the media so pro-war?

[Imran Siddiqui]

That ain't what I've seen. They are moderately pro-war, but then so are the Democrats. The media DEFINETLY favors getting UN approval before attacking, however.