Has Belgium gone mad?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Ozz


Oh you will, they control your foreign policy.

No, they need to understand what kind of country they
were allied with. Disagreeing with America becomes "stab in the back". Now they know

What Ally except UK and Israel HASN'T been insulted and threatened by the USA. In less than a year the
USA has gone from Leader of the west to international
pariah.

The Mask is torn.

Ozz, you simply have no idea how much resentment and anger there is in the US over the backstabbing French and Germans.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Eli

panag, if you think we're ever giving your sh*thole of a country NATO membership, then you're fantasising

I'm sorry, how many nuclear weapons Canada has?

How many could we build if we put our mind to it?

Answer: more than you

And it would take under a year to build a lifting body to hit Jerusalem.

Go ask the IAEA. IIRC, we're the most nuclear-capable non-nuclear country.

[Az]

Who needs it?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Ned
I agree, Panag. Belgium would not be so arrogant if it did not have NATO behind them.

hi ,

ahem , reading the news this week , ....?

they are against nato since the turkey thing , since monday morning 07.15 , ......

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Frogger


How many could we build if we put our mind to it?

Answer: more than you

And it would take under a year to build a lifting body to hit Jerusalem.

Go ask the IAEA. IIRC, we're the most nuclear-capable non-nuclear country.

hi ,

you are wrong , Japan can build one in 16 weeks , brazil in 8 months , ......

the south africans just have to transport the piece and put them together , there its a matter of how fast you can drive , .... canada is now behind the two year period , and they would need to get a hold of plutonium and other parts first , ......

have a nice day

[Ned]

Originally posted by Azazel
Who needs it?

I agree, Azazel. No one really needs to be allied with Canada or Belgium or for that matter, France or Germany.

There is one and only one ally any Western nation needs. To not have that one country as your friend, but instead to have that country as your enemy, is not a good idea.

There are open calls on Capitol Hill for fixing NATO so that the French are not included.

I would now add Belgium to that list.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Ned


I agree, Azazel. No one really needs to be allied with Canada or Belgium or for that matter, France or Germany.

There is one and only one ally any Western needs. To not have that one country as your friend, but instead to have that country as your enemy, is not a good idea.

There are open calls on Capitol Hill for fixing NATO so that the French are not included.

I would now add Belgium to that list.

hi ,

dont forget the backstabbing germans , .....

with nato gone from belgium they get an other economical feature , ..... 100 000 people gone , ......

so lets see , no more trade with Israel , Turkey , Nato and Shape out , ..... yeah , the belgians did it again , three times huray for belgian economics , .....

have a nice day

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

you are wrong , Japan can build one in 16 weeks , brazil in 8 months , ......

the south africans just have to transport the piece and put them together , there its a matter of how fast you can drive , .... canada is now behind the two year period , and they would need to get a hold of plutonium and other parts first , ......

have a nice day

Hi. You're wrong. We have plutonium-burning plants in operation right now (disposing of other people's old warheads). Which means that it wouldn't take more than 8-12 weeks. And a little birdie told me that we might have a few "pieces" that we forgot to tell the IAEA about too.

[Traianvs]

Panag: And Belgium could build one in 2 months, okay? who gives a flying **** about how fast we could build a nuke, I would even be bolder, we have US nukes stationed in Belgium, so don't push it.

Ozz, you simply have no idea how much resentment and anger there is in the US over the backstabbing French and Germans.

Ned, you simply have no idea how much resentment and anger there is in Europe over the arrogant way of handling things the Americans do it.

I mean, we all know since october 2002 that Bush is planning an attack on Iraq, even without NATO support, apparently that doesn't matter anyway, so you think at least. I just can't get how you blatantly ignore all international rules and do whatever you want... I see there is a tendency amongst the Americans to feel superior to everybody else in the world... As you are saying yourself, you don't need Canada (who have done nothing wrong) or France or anybody else, you'll just handle your business yourselves...now that, my fiend, is arrogance.

I agree, Panag. Belgium would not be so arrogant if it did not have NATO behind them.

You just don't get it do you? It's not Belgium that prosecutes, it's victims that do... All these actions by the Israeli like closing the doors for Belgian tourists (as if i would want to go to Israel right now, **** off) are pretty lame, and that is racism, we belgians have done nothing to you... we don't close hotels for israelis, right?


and panag, you with all your bull****, the reasonably large Jewish community in Antwerp (and other places) is BELGIAN and not israeli, they just have the same religion... these jews have a Belgian passport and everything!
and panag, who was oppressing the palestinians again? was it ... the Belgians?? Oh, honestly I don't think so matey, perhaps you should put your glasses on and see what the **** is going on in your own mess you guys like to call a democratic country or whatever you "think" a democratic country is...

[Myrddin]

NATO didn't follow any international rules when it intervened in Kosovo, the UN was bypassed because of the Russian veto. That was the start of the dowbfall of the post-war political settlement, and it had as much to do with European pressure for action, as US

WTF are the Belgian, French and German governements doing blocking NATo aid to Turkey - does the Belgian governement now believe that treaty obligations can be ignored, they were happy enough with them in 1914 and 1940

[Ben Kenobi]

And a little birdie told me that we might have a few "pieces" that we forgot to tell the IAEA about too.

Sounds like sabre-rattling, Frogger. From a Liberal?

Everybody knows Canada is just eskimos and igloos, hewers of wood and drawers of water. Why change perceptions?

[KrazyHorse]

A Liberal?

I vote NDP.

[KrazyHorse]

I just like taking the piss out of Israelis, Americans and Greeks.

There's a simple formula:

For the Israelis, call them a 3rd-world pisspot
For the Greeks, ask them how their Turkish husbands are doing
For the Americans, remind them of the War of 1812

[Edan]

Originally posted by SpencerH
This is the summary from the Kahan commission that investigated the events

Also relevent is Sharon's suit (in a US court) of libel against Time on account of an article they wrote claiming his involvement in the incident, because he cared so much about his reputation. The trial exonerated him, although the Jury did not award damages because he couldn't prove that they had wrote the article with malice intent.

Also relevent is the fact that we don't hear any calls for the trial of the Christian Phalangests who had commited the incidents (or those who had perpetrated simmilar incidents against Christian Phalangest communities, killing women and children).

[Traianvs]

WTF are the Belgian, French and German governements doing blocking NATo aid to Turkey - does the Belgian governement now believe that treaty obligations can be ignored, they were happy enough with them in 1914 and 1940

What the Turks are not happy with the 50000 American troops already in Turkey, right that's not enough protection then...

btw you really think Turkey is about to receive a massive attack? a bit far fetched if you ask me..

Besides, don't forget, pretty much all of the Turks don't want a war in Iraq, it's once again simply our good old friend America that more or less obliges them to support the war...
Also, America wants the support of Turkey in a war against Iraq, but at the same time, America supports the Kurds in Iraq, something the Turks don't really like, as they are having enough problems with the Kurds in their own country as it is now... A Kurdish revolt wouldn't be so amusing for the Turks!!