How do I get my philosophical ideas as well known as Pascals Wager?(Unique idea)

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Vesayen



Caligastia: that is the first point someone has made in this discussion(talking about it on 2 forums besides apolyton) which made my brain go "Oooh, good point!"-but why do you think that?

It's a part of Urantia Book cosmology:

http://www.urantia.org/papers/toc.html

Edit: Upon further though, if your basing that on events in the physical universe, that is untrue, because the universe WILL eventually end........be it one of the theories about a mind boggling large blackhole, OR just wait till the halflife expires on all protons and they fade into backround radiation....

How can you talk about these man made theories as if they are absolute truth? Remember, there is very little we humans know for sure about the nature of the universe. BTW the universe encompasses far more than just physical reality.

[Iron Chancellor]

But too much of all those good things? Think of how many things make you feel good, in addition to those things which are "good."

Yes, too much cake and ice cream and wild partying, but I doubt you can have too much love, or too intimate a relationship with someone.

[Ben Kenobi]

Vesayan,

Not to physicists. Time is considered a solid chunk, looking from outside that we pass through. Rather than time flowing, it is we who flow through time.

Good answer Agathon as to the material realities of heaven. Many Christians accept platonic descriptions of heaven so long as they also allow for a bodily resurrection.

That's why people who spend their lives screwing and drinking are scuppered when they die. It is not as if they go to hell, they in fact go to Platonic heaven - it is just that there is no way for them to satisfy any of their desires there.

[Kramerman]

"Kramerman's wager: I don't know if there is an afterlife, but in case there isn't, I'm going to live in a box hooked up to an IV fluid dispensar so that I live the longest life I possibly can."

Thats sorta kinda my philosophy ...

As i see it, we got one life to live, so live it up to the fullest extent. To some, this may be qunatity of life, to others, quality, and to folks like myself it is a balance between the two.

So, incase there is no afterlife, enjoy your life!

Kman

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

That's like saying, "I have no idea what I am talking about but I still want to speak like I do."

No, that's what they say. At least according to the picture of Platonism reconstructed from Plato's Phaedo, Republic, Symposium, and Meno; as well as the work of later Platonists like Plotinus.

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


If you want the very latest scholarly tome on this it is called "Knowing Persons" by L. P. Gerson, and is a study on Plato's theory of the self (will be published in April).

[Urban Ranger]

I have always considered Plato a wacko. YMMV.

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Re: Re: Re: How do I get my philosophical ideas as well known as Pascals Wager?(U

Originally posted by Caligastia
You don't understand. New things to experience are being created at a far faster rate than you can experience them. You will never have experienced all there is to experience in the universes because it is constantly changing.

What is the mechanism of this creation? Who is to say it will not reach a plateau and then decline?

[Kramerman]

its hard to imagine there being an infinte amount of new experiences, as that is what would be necessary for one to never get bored for eternity. even a google^google is insignificant in the realm of infinitesimals. but perhaps just my puny human mind cannot comprehend such ideas...

Kman

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I think in Pascal's day, more people cared about religious/philosophical ideas. I don't think many people are interested in philosophy right now. That could make it harder for people to become well known now.

Exactly, you should focus on which Pokemon is the best instead.

[monolith94]

"Read Neitzsche? (I think it was him). He espoused the view of two options. Life/ the universe exists forever or life/ the universe ends. If the former we are eternally tormented as time repeats itself, if the latter then living is pointless."

What a cheerful guy! I seriously think, though, that these philosophers specifically aimed to deflate the spirits of those around them. Take that tasteful Sartre quote: "Hell is other people". Oh, is it? Maybe it is for you, you friendless, antisocial, goon of a thick glasses, cross-eyed frenchman, but for people who are able to deal with the inconsistencies of life, and even revel in them, heaven is other people. It is for me. If I have to spend heaven alone, I'd kill myself. Oh, wait...

"The problem with afterlife arguments is it assumes the afterlife is like the real world, except without the nasty stuff (or good stuff if you're in hell). I doubt that very much."

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Big Crunch
Read Neitzsche? (I think it was him). He espoused the view of two options. Life/ the universe exists forever or life/ the universe ends. If the former we are eternally tormented as time repeats itself, if the latter then living is pointless.

Probably not, Neitzche was an existentialist. Anyway, he advocated living your life to the fullest then go out with a bang.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What a cheerful guy! I seriously think, though, that these philosophers specifically aimed to deflate the spirits of those around them.

Remember the famous saying: 'ignorance is bliss'. The more you know, the more cynical you become, IMO, and that becomes depressing after a while.

[monolith94]

That's funny - the more I know, the more I realize how ignorant I am.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by monolith94
That's funny - the more I know, the more I realize how ignorant I am.

This is the beginning of wisdom.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Probably not, Neitzche was an existentialist. Anyway, he advocated living your life to the fullest then go out with a bang.

Didn't he come up with the philosophical idea that anything that can happen has happened and will happen again. He had some story about the eternal recurrence of Zaroastra's journey, or something like that, to explain it.

My knowledge of the subject stems solely from reading about Poincarre recurrence, rather than reading any books on Nietzsche philosophy.