Paying For Uni

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
what is the distance like, can he commute?

Own goal?

No way is a commute possible.

Of course, exactly where the 'north' ends and the 'south' begins is a little hazy.

Hull to London is 215.5 miles (346.9 km), for example: http://www.multimap.com/map/aproute....2C180516&rn=GB

[zulu9812]

Originally posted by GP
1. God, you sound so pathetic. As if somebody owes you a living because you got a masters in biology. Make something happen. Quit expectiong the world to take care of you.

Actually, the government owes every adult in this country a living.

[Drogue]

And with a Masters in Biochem, he *should* walk into a decent job. I might be wrong, but since Rich is an Oxford graduate, I believe you can still use the Oxford Graduate careers service even after you graduate. I had a look at it, and I already have a post-degree job, if I want it. It works well

[OPD]

Some times it seems like everyone has a degree, in more and more obscure subjects. Were crying out for plummers, plasterers etc and instead people are being encouraged to go to uni to do things like biochem. Plummers earn more than lawyers alot of the time. In career terms (not general terms) you're probably better off leaving school at 16 and doing skilled labour for 4 and a half years. Then doing some work experience in an office for 6 months and you'll be more likely to get a job than alot of students and you'll have 12 grand in the bank rather than in debt.

Retrain and become a plummer Harrison all you need is a lazy attitude and some non existant bloke to order parts from.

[Provost Harrison]

I don't know if I have the regulation arse cleavage that it is necessary to display as a plummer

Well I am not going into the analysis thing, I don't feel the compulsion to do that. But what I am saying it that having an education feels like it is becoming more and more of a gamble in terms of long term goals with the stakes getting higher and higher. I may not have the self-loathing or depression or anxiety from this predicament, but I still do feel a bit bitter about the situation that I, quite frankly, shouldn't be in.

[zulu9812]

The thing is, having a degree used to virtually guarantee a good job. Now, with so many ppl having degrees, employers look for other things. Things they don't teach you in college.

[Provost Harrison]

Tell me about it zulu, tell me about it...

[Grrr]

I don't think it is ever possible to be fair between rich and poor ... without creating a non-corrupt-communist-socialism .

The thing I don't like are the stupid regulations like for instance the fact that the government will give me NO assistance until my 18th birthday. They more or less want to keep me at school for another year .

The other thing to keep in mind to ... :
I have rich friends whose paren'ts WONT help them. The government however won't help them either because their parents earn too much. They can't get the money either way.

[VetLegion]

In Croatia university education is completely free. You have to love it


The downside is many people dont take studying very seriousely so I would guess we study the longest (7 years on average) in europe, also almost everyone enrolls into a college and there are many, many dropouts along the way. Like 300 people enroll in first year and 25 from that generation passes the tests for year II in one year period.

[Wernazuma III]

Grr: I know those people too, they're not better off than I am, that's for sure. But you don't have to earn a lot and still your children don't apply for grants. My father's a teacher and my mum was keeping the house, yet I couldn't get any social grant, only by "merit" - and it's really hard to get the required amount of courses when working besides...

PH: I've heard that employers more and more favor humanist graduates - not for what they know but for their flexibility - "knowledge management" is the word of the day, not the knowledge in a specific area. My hope!

[TCO]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Grr: I know those people too, they're not better off than I am, that's for sure. But you don't have to earn a lot and still your children don't apply for grants. My father's a teacher and my mum was keeping the house, yet I couldn't get any social grant, only by "merit" - and it's really hard to get the required amount of courses when working besides...

PH: I've heard that employers more and more favor humanist graduates - not for what they know but for their flexibility - "knowledge management" is the word of the day, not the knowledge in a specific area. My hope!

It's just a trendy line of bull****. Trust me.

[DanS]

One thing to keep in mind is that students at elite institutions in the US do not pay for the full cost of their education. MIT's annual tuition of nearly $30k only covers roughly 1/2 of it. The rest is covered by endowments, government and private research grants, etc.

Not that the US is a model. But you do have to compete with these institutions for top teaching and research talent. Even a 30k GBP top up fee isn't going to put funding nearly on par, assuming that UK institutions do not have these multi billion dollar endowments.

[DanS]

"It's just a trendy line of bull****. Trust me."

Yeh, my parents fed me that line of bull****. While in the long-run true, right out of school it bears absolutely no resemblance to reality.

[Alexander's Horse]

Student debts have bad economic effects for the whole economy.

[DanS]

Care to finish your thought?