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  • #16
    Could be. In any case, the overal deal was better, according to the polish gov. and that's all that matters.

    For the record we have both kind of planes
    (can't be too sure)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Chris 62
      Germany complains that bombers were used on it?

      Have they appologized about Guernica, Rotterdam, Coventry, London, Warsaw......

      This is political correctness gone wild.
      As if Germany had not been sentenced for their war crimes or as if had not taken full responsablity of its war crimes. Germans did apologize (and restitute in many cases) for what they had done in the war.

      Moreover, it's not about being bombed (that's what may happen in a war), but about the unnecessary and willful bombing of civilians and targets without military value. And THAT's not political correctness gone wild.
      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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      • #18
        Yes it is.

        NEWSFLASH:

        GERMANY STARTED WWII AND AREA BOMBING OF CIVILLIAN TARGETS.
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        i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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        • #19
          If it's a war crime for the other side to delieberately atack civilians, why isn't it a war crime for our side to do the same? I'm not defending what the other side did. Why are you defending us when we did the same thing?
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #20
            War is a crime Che, once it comes, rules go out the door when fighting scum like the Nazis or Imperial Japan.

            The kids today may not like it, but that's the way it is.
            I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
            i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Chris 62
              Germany complains that bombers were used on it?

              Have they appologized about Guernica, Rotterdam, Coventry, London, Warsaw......
              There´s one point you miss.

              Most of the german Leadership has been comdemned fpr their crimes, they commited and the orders they gave during WW 2.

              There has been a big War crime tribunal in Nuremberg after the War and I assume, those people who gave the orders to bomb english cities have also been found guilty and executed afterwards.

              In contrast there haven´t been many war crime tribunals for atrocities committed by the winners of WW2 and neither Churchill nor Harris ever had account for the bombing of german residential districts.

              If any nations attacks you and commits atrocities on your Citizens during the war and you retaliate and commit the same atrocities on their citizens, does it make your atrocities less grave?
              I would say "No"
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              • #22
                Well, that's the way you think it is. We are still entitled to disagree. Germany didn't start area bombing either. Even in Britain we're taught that we started it, even though it was 'justified'.
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                • #23
                  The reason that the Polish bought American fighters was that the USA government helped sweeten the deal for the Polish to the total of $8 billion. Bribery is such a good way to win eh?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Demerzel
                    The reason that the Polish bought American fighters was that the USA government helped sweeten the deal for the Polish to the total of $8 billion.
                    So what?
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                    • #25
                      Germany began area bombing in the Spanish Civil war, so your being taught wrong.

                      Harris and Churchill thought they were a war winner, they were wrong.

                      Don't like bombing?
                      Next time don't start a war.
                      I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                      i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Chris 62
                        War is a crime Che, once it comes, rules go out the door when fighting scum like the Nazis or Imperial Japan.

                        The kids today may not like it, but that's the way it is.
                        Thats for both sides. According to your statement, Germany and Japan shouldnt apologize for their war crime either.

                        But we did win. So does it matter?
                        :-p

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                        • #27
                          I have no problem with it, and I find it stupid for people to ask for appologies from 60 years back events.

                          Also, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were abominations, so I couldn't care less that they were bombed.
                          I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                          i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                          • #28
                            Then there was the UK intelligence operation which secured that Botswana was placed on the #24 spot, slightly less 'corrupt' than France # 25, on 8 August 2002 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index 2002 .

                            2 sept, 2002 Blair visits Africa

                            Chirac 2 nov. says After EU agricultural summit: " British bull**** is not safe and an embargo against it must be implemented in Europe."

                            I tend to agree.

                            A mini-summit between Chirac and Blair is planned for feb 4. 2003. Let's see...

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                            • #29
                              Chris: Your "winner's justice" attitude is really incredible and sickening.
                              And don't forget, not "Nazi Germany" was bombed, but people living there, like my grandfather who was far from being a Nazi (no, he did not die). And you, again, forgot to explain why you think it's justified to bomb knowingly civilian quarters without military value, just in order to kill as many people as possible. Only becasue it's "only revenge" for other crimes commited by Germans, it doesn't make them right.
                              "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                              "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Chris 62

                                Next time don't start a war.
                                Now who bankrolled Hitler, let's have that dicussion as well.

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