30,000 Turk Cypriots Hold Pro-EU Rally

[Az]

oh gawd, not THIS thread again.

[Bereta_Eder]

and since Im in the mood take a load of this as well

_"daring" dorks have been trying to photograph military sights for years as part of their pathetic "kicks" acquiring promenade through the med.
most are arrested, checked out and then released


those dorks OTOH

_had top notch recording equipment
_were scanning the top military sight of Greek Air defence. Thats where most of the planes take off to intercept the turkish jets even on a weekly basis
_they had been explicitly warned not to take pics once
_there were signs both in greek AND english about this
_when checked out it was found a link between one of them and the turkish ministry of defence


if somehting looks odd, is Blair's incistence for the political power of greece to be involved in its judicial process


if there were not concrete evidence to convict them of spying was that turkey didnt cooperate (and turkey is NOT a democracy - why do ya think they're not in the EU?)

also they were convicted for what they had done - taking state secrets.

in any given circumstance the whole charade will start again, and take exactly the same course to the vast enjoyment of most of the world except some torry brits maybe and of course, the DLs

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Lets recapitulate for you DL

Lets recapitulate for you DL

_Cyprys, british colony utterly poor
brits hanging 15 year old to maintain their basis
_Cyprus asked for independance, london refused.
_Freedom fighting started after explicit request from Makarios
_"Mistakes" were made yes by the US backed junta
_Cyprus liberated, gays left

_yet constitution forced upon cyprus was a crime in itself.
upon cyprus was a crime in itself.

Try getting your facts right.

_Cyprys, british colony utterly poor

Bull****, it had nothing when the UK got it, their was
nothing there but a few fisherman and some marginal
farmers. It was without santation, crime and diease
were rampant and their was periodic famine. They built the roads, ports, hospitals brought cyprus out to the
middle ages.

_Cyprus asked for independance, london refused.

Greek Terrorists asked the UN for independance. They
aren't going the hand over to a bunch of thugs.

_Freedom fighting started after explicit request from Makarios

Makarios didn't get want he wanted so a campaign of
terror bombing begins.

_"Mistakes" were made yes by the US backed junta

Try the Greek Government, There you go again blaming
other people for your vile acts.

_Cyprus liberated, gays left

The UK dumps the island as a thankless drain of money,
and leaves the Greeks to fight among themselves.

_yet constitution forced upon cyprus was a crime in itself.

The Turk minority peacefully lobbied London and got reckonzied, The Greeks signed and immeidiatley broke their agreement and sent armed parties on a killing spree in N. Cyprus as soon as the British were gone.
That's when and why the Turks invaded. They didn't
want an "ethic cleansing" of their people by the Greeks.

[Bereta_Eder]

ALL those things you write are not refuted by me!
But by documents of the UN and international documents. I just do you a favor and let them be know to a DL scum

here we go

Originally posted by Ozz
Cyprys, british colony utterly poor

Bull****, it had nothing when the UK got it, their was
nothing there but a few fisherman and some marginal
farmers. It was without santation, crime and diease
were rampant and their was periodic famine. They built the roads, ports, hospitals brought cyprus out to the
middle ages.

The one who got it in the midle ages was the ottoman empire like it had done greece. when under brit rule it was utterly poor and kept under brit control for the gays' naval bases. when it got its freedom and self governance it exploded in economic activity.

_Cyprus asked for independance, london refused.

Greek Terrorists asked the UN for independance. They
aren't going the hand over to a bunch of thugs.

Cypriotes asked for independance and were lobbying Greece long enough. Greece itself didnt want to go against the brit bastards since they were so powerful.
brits only cared about their bases and hanged 15 year old cypriote boys.

_Freedom fighting started after explicit request from Makarios

Makarios didn't get want he wanted so a campaign of
terror bombing begins.

With special care to avoid brit casualties. Thats liberation fighting (even if there was no such care)

_"Mistakes" were made yes by the US backed junta

Try the Greek Government, There you go again blaming
other people for your vile acts.

1967-1974: No Greek government. Greek dictatorship backed by BOTH the US and UK.

_Cyprus liberated, gays left

The UK dumps the island as a thankless drain of money,
and leaves the Greeks to fight among themselves.

Brits were blown out of the sky They just needed conveincing it would seem. but not before turning the peaceful tuksish cypiotes against greek. cypriotes.

_yet constitution forced upon cyprus was a crime in itself.

The Turk minority peacefully lobbied London and got reckonzied, The Greeks signed and immeidiatley broke their agreement and sent armed parties on a killing spree in N. Cyprus as soon as the British were gone.
That's when and why the Turks invaded. They didn't
want an "ethic cleansing" of their people by the Greeks.

occupied cyprus is not recognized by anybody except turkey. turkey invaded when the enosis with greece (backed by the US junta) was imminent not when greek cypr. were fitghintg turksih insurgents stirred up by turkey and the uk

N. Cuprus does not EXIST on the map.


That says somethign on who's wrong and who's right nomatter how it pains your silly old goat heart my poor DL

[Bereta_Eder]

Oh and the constituti0n was indeed a crime but did get signed since there wasnt any other choice there was it? 70 million turkish savages and a savage brit aempire all upon 700.000 greek cypr asking for freedom.

of course it was signed. and "broken". for the good of the island. an 80.000 minority on a 780.000 total population having veto rights?
thats unheard of, if it wasnt for cyprus living next door to 70 million strong turkey and so far from greece.

besides the other fault of makarios (not getting turk cyrp. in his embrace - but that was hard with brit and turks stirring them up) one more fault of the dictatorship was trusting NATO too much and not be prepared for anything.


but that is history.


free rich cyprus is the place all turksih cypr. impoverished and in suffering under a brutal dictatorship want to be.

and thats just fine with the greek cypr.

even turkey is asking the turk cypr. dictator to resign and let the island be reunified. not to count the turkish cupr. victims themselves crying out in desperation for it.

that is the final victory of the fight for freedom, democracy, peace and prosperity against all odds.
and you can stuff it

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Oh and the constituti0n was indeed a crime but did get signed since there wasnt any other choice there was it? 70 million turkish savages and a savage brit aempire all upon 700.000 greek cypr asking for freedom.

of course it was signed. and "broken". for the good of the island. an 80.000 minority on a 780.000 total population having veto rights?
thats unheard of, if it wasnt for cyprus living next door to 70 million strong turkey and so far from greece.

The Honourable choices are to sign or not to sign. Simple
enough even for you to understand. When you sign and
treacherously break your promises nobody, for good reason ever believes you again, it's the path a coward
and a liar takes.

A lot of countries have deals with their minorities, Canada for one, 24 million english vs 6 million french.
They have veto rights.

Of course their "turkish savages" aren't they? They and the British "savages" havn't learned to lie and cheat like the "civilized" Greeks.

Who isn't a savage to you? Oh beacon of civilization tell
us. Who is civilized like a Greek?

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
you can stuff it

Ah... your just pissed off cause you don't have any facts
to back up own emotional, biased and unsupported
arguments.

Let it be a lesson from to you. Don't blame others for your own mistakes. Start doing that and you'll start
being respectable.

Instead of a Dork

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Azazel
oh gawd, not THIS thread again.

A lot of this stuff applies to Israel too. Israel should have
and could have been setup in cyprus.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Ozz


The Honourable choices are to sign or not to sign. Simple
enough even for you to understand. When you sign and
treacherously break your promises nobody, for good reason ever believes you again, it's the path a coward
and a liar takes.

Of course it is not the only choice.

You go for what you can and you try to change it.

A constitution that doesnt allow a country to function democratically is deficiant and must be changed.


The honourable thing to do was for the Brits to have given independance when Cypriotes asked for it and a free constituion to go with it.

A lot of countries have deals with their minorities

The difference is that they didnt have a 70 million strong Turkey which impeded true democratic reforms in another country simply because it could and the army wanted it.


And pray tell where is the honour in hanging 15 year olds (UK) and supporting dictatorships(US/UK)?

Or having a military regime? (Turkey)?



Or do you simply chose not to answer to those?

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Ozz




A lot of this stuff applies to Israel too. Israel should have
and could have been setup in cyprus.

You don't get to decide.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Ozz
Who isn't a savage to you? Oh beacon of civilization tell
us. Who is civilized like a Greek?

One who can see more than the partial truth. And who can acknowledge mistakes for his side. Which clearly isn't you.