30,000 Turk Cypriots Hold Pro-EU Rally

[Bereta_Eder]

eh?

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didnt i already say that the policies of makarios were a bit blinded vis a vis the turks?

he should have brought them in the game instead of letting them be played for pawns in the hands of the gays

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but inocent little minority?

they put machine guns next to the roads and started shooting for gods sake.

cant have a country with that

of course the responce of the greeks was not honourable either

[Az]

It's clear that the turks in cyprus were a minority that occupied the north of the island. Bishop macarios, or whatever his name was, led a little junta of people that wanted to Hellenize the island, by all means. I am telling you, a massacre would have happened.

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its clear that the turks of cyprus were manipulated by the brits to create terrorist attacks against the greeks.

THAT much is clear.

if greeks have wanted they had 1 bazilion chances to wipe out the turks.


the turks invaded WHEN cyprus was to join with greece (which makarios did not want!)

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there was even a coup from greece (by them under US backed dictatorship) to overthrow makarios and unite.


thats when turks invaded.

genocide is puppy **** crap.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
there is a reason noone recognizes the turkish cypriote part and thats because the invasion was illegal.

the turks would be perfectly happy with the greeks if the brits didnt stir them up so as to keep cyprus for themselves.

Wasn't the coup illegal? Both Greece and Turkey have been screwin' the cypriotes around. They'd be better off independent and be Cypriotes first, and let the Greeks and Turks fight and bicker somewhere else.

This is equally true. the Greeks and Turks would be perfectly happy with the British if the Turks/Greeks didnt stir them up so as to CLAIM cyprus for themselves.

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yeah tell it to the 15 year old boy the brits HANGED who was fighting for an independent cyrpus.

and NO, the greeks werent stiring them up to leave britain.

the gays had ****ed up the island into total exploitation and poverty.
now its the richest of all new EU members.

read the archives

cyrpiotes! were lobbying the greeks to put forrth the matter of independance of cyprus in the UN.

i agree about the first part though

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i agree means:
the coup was illegal (doh!) but greece had a dictatorship back then (which was backed by the US/UK scam)

so youre not talking about a democratic greece wanting the union.

(and i repeat makarios did not want the union, greece sent its own squads there to overthrow him)

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BTW "to leave britain" sounds so fake

Cyprus was a colony for christ's sake! not an... EU member! Exploited and utterly poor under british colonial rule.

Cypriotes have been lobbying the Greeks long enough to press the matter of independence in the UN.

And when the attacks against the Brits started, the Brits left, but made a point of stiring up the Turks cypriotes against the Greek cypriotes.

Revengeful little bastards.
BTW Britain was one of the 3 guaranteeing powers. But given all that its no surprise they didnt raise a finger to stop the turks from invading,.

anyway the fault of Makarios was that he didn't take the turkish cypriotes in his "embrace" so to speak and left them pawns in the hands of the brits. (and the turks). as for the mistakes of the juntists... where to begin


Anyway, thats history, "forgiven" but not forgoten.

Today facts are:" Free rich Cyprus enters the EU. Turkish cypriotes want to, but their dictator doesnt let them.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
yeah tell it to the 15 year old boy the brits HANGED who was fighting for an independent cyrpus.

What was he hanged for, murder, treason, terroristism?

Elas was fighting for independent Greece, (or so they said ) against the British in 1945. Maybe the British should have stayed home and Greece could have had a big Stalin statue at the Parthedon in Athens.

Cyprus was NOT a colony. It was handed over to the UK from TURKEY/OTTANMANs in the 1880/1890s. Since then it was undeveloped terrority which paid a small tribute to the empire in exchange for British seapower ending piracy.

Why would the British develop Cyprus? Alien language,population, poor resources. They had 1/4 of the world to pick from, Cyprus would be about least desirable investment.

Blame the British? Neithier Greece or Turkey would even exist if it was'nt for the evil British.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Ozz


What was he hanged for, murder, treason, terroristism?

Fighting to have his own parliement in his own country.

That was why a 15 years old cypriote boy was hanged by the British.

What do you say about that?

Elas was fighting for independent Greece, (or so they said ) against the British in 1945. Maybe the British should have stayed home and Greece could have had a big Stalin statue at the Parthedon in Athens.

Elas was fighting for a lot of things.

It fought against the Nazi Germans and then against the british and the state fascists.

The English opened fire in the crowd and killed scores, precipitating the civil war.

They also, along with the state fascists, sent scores in exile.

Are you ok with that?

Stalin in the Parthenon?

Better read a lot more history....

There COULD have been a compromise between the rebels and the state. The Brits just created a chaos and then left when the sh!t hit the fan since they couldn't handle the rebels anymore.
That's for history.

Cyprus was NOT a colony. It was handed over to the UK from TURKEY/OTTANMANs in the 1880/1890s. Since then it was undeveloped terrority which paid a small tribute to the empire in exchange for British seapower ending piracy.

Cyprus was under british rule = a colony.

It was dirt poor and exploited. After it fought to gain its independance from the brits, and it got it, it prospered. The Greek-Cypriote part that is.


Are you ok with that?

Why would the British develop Cyprus? Alien language,population, poor resources. They had 1/4 of the world to pick from, Cyprus would be about least desirable investment.

Hanging 15 years old migth give them a hard on? Who knows.

Maybe you can answer it?

The Cypriotes had a right to
_Freedom
_Prosperity

and that meant getting the gays off their backs.

Blame the British? Neithier Greece or Turkey would even exist if it was'nt for the evil British.

Trying to be serious in the face of such "unbiased", "educated" declarations, at least I try to find the mistakes on each side, instead of treating the Brits like angels like you seem to do. And without knowing sh!t about the whole matter as it seems.

[Az]

errm, turkey would....

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It's not Israel

Oh and may I point out Ozz, in the line of your oqn rhetorics, you wouldn't exist without Greece. (unless you consider existance being a monkey eating bananas in the cave and wondering why the sky goes BOOM from time to time).

[Az]

errm, greece wouldn't have existed without ME civilizations. we can go on with this for ever, it's a stupid arguement.

It's not Israel