30,000 Turk Cypriots Hold Pro-EU Rally

[Serb]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Most of us know it is a crap country parading around with a less credible democracy than Turkey.

Sure and USA is the true example of democracy "with us or against us" yeah, true example.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sonic
Tassadar, why do you say Russian people are good? I do seriously doubt that. Most if not all of Russians I've ment and know in my life were ussually quite bad persons... BTW, currently Russian people themselves elects government yet they elected fascist as a president (his actions against Chechnya, also against all other religions except orthodox, proves that).

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Sonic
Tassadar, why do you say Russian people are good? I do seriously doubt that. Most if not all of Russians I've ment and know in my life were ussually quite bad persons...

How DARE you tell ME that the majority of the Russian people are "bad persons". How DARE you tell me that most if not all of the Russian people are NOT generous and generally are not good people. Because I highly DOUBT you know all that many Russians at all. Edit: In fact, unless you have visited ALL of Russia you would know NOTHING about the Russian people. I shall personally tell you that the Russian people are VERY generous and very open minded unlike you whom closes your mind to EVERYTHING.

Oh and by the way, the statement you have just made is a racist comment. And..I can't put into words how surprised I am to see you say it. Honestly sonic, I thought even YOU were more open minded than that.

(his actions against Chechnya,

Ok, a lot of it is justified, though I do agree that it does go into excessive quite often.

also against all other religions except orthodox, proves that).

I can't defend it because I don't agree with it. However, many Americans support Bush whom has allowed mass-arrests and is gearing for a war that could potentially kill people in the TENS of THOUSANDS.

Does that mean the American people are vicious warmongering dogs?

Also, communist regime would never happened if not support from Russian people

Oh come on. Having lost many wars, serving under an effective dictatorship....Can you BLAME them for wanting someone else? If in Lithuania you had to do back-breaking work for little or NOTHING, and your government was doing nothing to help you (and even opressing you!) would you not call for a new government? Oh wait, you did didn't you?

And don't forget that most Russians completly HATE stalin because yeah the Russian people were under a dictatorship too. It wasn't only Lithuanians, sorry to tell you. The Germans supported Hitler. Does that mean there isn't a single good German on Earth?

Anyway, I would just like to re-iterate my disappointment in you Sonic. I didn't think that even YOU are capable of this kind of closed-minded racism. However, you've just proven me wrong. Maybe I should take it that most Lithuanians are racist.... Nah. I'll take it on a case by case basis.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Heresson


As Serb

I'll remember this one Heresson.
The retaliation will be painful, I promise.

[Sonic]

Well, it is a fact that if Lenin wouldn't have supporters at all there would probably be no Soviet Union... With kicking out the government it is like with getting elected - although you don't need to have 51% of supporters anymore, you still have to have supporters, otherwise revolution will never work (I am not talking about revolutions backed by foreign powers now).

As for goodness of Russian people, I've just said that most of ones I've met and know quite well to say werether they are bad or not are not good (in my opinion). I did not said whole nation was bad. I BTW said this more or less to counter your statement that "Russians are good". Neither goodness, neither badness, cannot be proved, thus it shouldn't be up for discution.

Did I anywhere BTW said GW Bush is good? I don't agree with most of his politics...

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Ozz
All they needed to do is lobby London, they would have become a self governing they would have been independent and united.

DL,
They DID petition London through independance applications in the UN.
London refused.

And that's when the Liberation Struggle begun. You really think people enjoy kill or getting killed ?
And that's also when the brits turned turks against greeks. And Makarios mistake was not tryign to get the turkish cyp. uner his embrace too. But the "games" of uk also did have a huge role in dividing the island. were there peaceful turksih cypr. and not stirred by the brits (and turks).

And lets not forget that were it not for the arms supremacy of turkey (your games and our US backed DICTATORSHIP's grave mistakes) , the tukish cypr. would be a minority. 80.000 people amongst 700.000 people enjoying democracy and prosperity like the greek cypr. do.

And I repeat when the Cypriotes became self governing their status changed from utterly poor to the richest new EU member. Through their own work and even though they lost 70% of their natural resources after the invasion which was illegal and for which there is also a huge US mainy and secondly Uk complicity.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Serb


I'll remember this one Heresson.
The retaliation will be painful, I promise.

Hopefully

[Bereta_Eder]

and something else you also dont know wraped up in your relic colonial romantic misinformation.

turkey does care about turkish cypr. (or does just a little - alitte they don care abour democracy or prosperity for them) they discovered them later on when the dict. wanted the enosis. what it does care about was not having a "greek knife in his tender underbelly" as it has said about cyprus.

they feared us as we feared them but we are just 10 mil and they are 70.


hoprefully all this will change and well all be eating icecreams.

but do yourself a favor and read up on the turkish cypriote movement of the '60s in the univeristy of instanbul.


uk is only a minor shade in all of this, no matter how big it is in your mind DL. it has done grave errours what it cared abuot was its bases and didnt mind sh!tting all over the place.


the dict. did grave grae mistakes too not only in strategy (doh! they were dumb dictators) and in human righst but also in trusting NATO a bit too much and not preparing for anything.

and then there is also kissinger.

unfortunately the illegal status quo was in the interest of some people (including greek. cypr. and greeks) but that time has passed.

And it is time to reunite in democracy and propserity.

So thank Kranidiotis and spare me your colonial paternalistic crap.

you got blown out of the sky because of your own fault. people who want to live free are never at fault for wanting it.

if someone is too monidmensinal, too simplistic and very ill and poorly informed it is you.


go caress your albion's flag or something and stop bugging me.

[XarXo]

Well, Russians are destroying Chechenya, but Bush (a.k.a. Dumb Killing Cookies Eater) now want to destroy Iraq Probably the BAD people is the one that FOLLOW these natural errors and put them in to the political positions. So... err... Well, the proportions of bad people are quite large in western countries .

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
go caress your albion's flag or something and stop bugging me.

Sure, when you quit blaming other nations for problems
that they didn't create.

BTW, I'm not English, DL, I just don't like it when a bunch of bastards do some really vile acts and then try
and blame someone else for "forcing" them to do it.

Go rap yourself in Greece's Flag, the blood stains and **** on it caused by Greek rabble rousing on cyprus, no surprise that the of Greek terrorists "fighting for freedom" on Cyprus were NOT cyproits but mainland Greeks.

The reason cyprus is screwed up is because of Greece.
not Britain, not Turkey, not the US. The reason Greece
screwed them over, is cause Greece itself is screwed up.
(the plane watchers made Greece look REAL stupid, and
prove Greece isn't any better than it was as a dictatorship)

[Bereta_Eder]

DL

[Bereta_Eder]

BTW the planespotters didnt make Greece look stupid. The proper procedures where followed and most of the world was happy to see some dorky gay brits being dragged through the pits for violating the law.

[Bereta_Eder]

Lets recapitulate for you DL

_Cyprys, british colony utterly poor
brits hanging 15 year old to maintain their basis
_Cyprus asked for independance, london refused.
_Freedom fighting started after explicit request from Makarios
_"Mistakes" were made yes by the US backed junta
_Cyprus liberated, gays left

_yet constitution forced upon cyprus was a crime in itself.

how come a minority if 80.000 amoint 700.000 people could have veto rights? were it ot for Turkey being next door?

Now facts are:

Free Cyprys is prosperpus the richest of all new EU countries are and democratic.

Occupied cyprus (the turkish part) is dirt poor and living under a dictatorship


you do the math.

oh sure Greece has made mistakes but to have to fight off two "empires" of multimilion savages (brits and turks) I'd say it did pretty good.


The only remaining issue is to reclaim one CYpurs.

And there is nothing finer on the eyes than seeing the turkis cypriotes themselves crying out for it

and for good reason.


as I said, you know nothing and DLs have no nationality.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by paiktis22
BTW the planespotters didnt make Greece look stupid. The proper procedures where followed and most of the world was happy to see some dorky gay brits being dragged through the pits for violating the law.

Paranoia, People standing on public land taking pictures as part of a tour, set up and run by Greek operators.
Real dangerous spies, You think your neighbours don't know what you got? You think a Turk or Bulgaian couldn't remember.

Most of the world were laughing at Greece for being so paranoid. It was something right out of a Monty Python
sketch.

[Bereta_Eder]

Even the english were laughing at the dorkiness of the "planespotters"

taking pics is forbitten in military sights and for good reason since there are still dogfights between greek and turkish jets.

and the whole world was glad they got kicked in the ass.
proper procedures were followed as said

the only ones who maybe got offended were maybe some old school brits who have forgotten that they are no longer an empire to force its will on smaller countries?

hmm maybe.

but paranoia?
certaintly not.
Laws and for good reason DL