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if you ever say again that turks are the descendants of greeks, i shalt hunt you down to the white hot infernos of the inner circles of hell dr. strangelove.
Originally posted by paiktis22
if you ever say again that turks are the descendants of greeks, i shalt hunt you down to the white hot infernos of the inner circles of hell dr. strangelove.
that was a joke
I don't live in your neighborhood!
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
Let's face facts Paiktis. Human beings are like rabbits in that groups of humans can't live near each other for five minutes before they start having sex with each other.
Greeks & Turks have lived next to each other since at least the fourteenth century so it is safe to say there has been a significant amount of intermarrage.
So when you think about it Paiktis even you could be part Turk.
Couldn't we all just abandon this miserable thread and let it die out peacefully. This poll is quite despicable in its nature, I think most people agree.
Many, many Greeks simply became Turks. First of all there was the boy-tribute system. Second, entire units of the Byzantine army simply joined the Ottomans in the 14th Century. Ohran's wife (or was it Beyezid's), IIRC, was the daughter of the Byzantine "emperor." By the 17th Century, the Sultan's had more Greek blood than Turkish blood.
Hell, the ruler of the Empire for a long time was Kosem Sultana, mother of Mehemd IV and Ibrahim. She was a full blood Greek. She ruled over her husband, was regent for Mehemd, and took over the empire for Ibrahim (he was totally insane). I should note this is about the point that the EMpire began to become more nasty.
Most of the major sities of the European part of the Empire were either founded by Turks or resettled by Turks after the Christians had fled. In most of the Balkans, Christians were forbidden from converting to Islam, because Moslems didn't pay taxes nor did they have to give up a son. Where they could, however, Christians converted in droves.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
I dunno, I learned some good things from Doc S. I never had even heard of the classification "Dravidian." And Che's last post had a good history lesson.
I'm reading Lords of the Horizon right now, about the Ottoman Empire. I checked out five books on the Ottomans for research so I could write some more events in Europa-Universalis II.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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You might be interested to see that Danish and Iranian cluster right next to each other.
Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff
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