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To anthropologists, people in Persia, Russia, Egypt, and Morocco are Caucasian. Many people use "white" to mean all Caucasians.
Besides, to us Asians, you all look the same anyway.
Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff
white and proud. wheres my damn half-irish quarter german quarter polish parade?
"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
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EDIT: OMG, in the waiting screen after I post, I got this quote: "I am just a nice, clean-cut Mongolian boy.
-- Yul Brynner, 1956"
How the heck did that happen??
Anyway, this poll follows the old school of classification: Negroid, Mongoloid, Caucasoid, plus the mixed categories of "mestizo" and "mulatto". This is neither PC nor scientifically accurate. "Negroids", for example, is very very diversified, ranging from the Khoisan of the Kalahari to the Dravidians of south India.
On the other hand, race DOES exist. I don't believe that categories like "Black" or "White" should be used to pigeonhole people, but I do believe that these categories are useful, scientifically, to describe heritage, genetics and human history.
Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff
Anyway, this poll follows the old school of classification: Negroid, Mongoloid, Caucasoid, plus the mixed categories of "mestizo" and "mulatto". This is neither PC nor scientifically accurate. "Negroids", for example, is very very diversified, ranging from the Khoisan of the Kalahari to the Dravidians of south India.
the -oid suffix means "similar to" or "looks like" or something like that. by that definition, it wouldn't be wrong to classify khoisan as negroid or irishmen as caucasoid. if you see what I mean.
the "old school of classification" did indeed take into account that the three groups are diverse imo.
aryan
slavic
latin
semittic
native americans (whats their race name?)
and i know the indians look a little different.
whats the race name for the east asians?
finno-urgian
black
one for the people in oceania (not the aborgines)
aborgines
there we go with the list, though i dont have the names on them all. (there might be more races im not sure. but i know there are not less).
"The meaning of war is not to die for your country, but making your enemies die for their..."
Originally posted by Viking Berserk
im not confusing race and ethnic groups...
here they are:
aryan
slavic
latin
semittic
native americans (whats their race name?)
and i know the indians look a little different.
whats the race name for the east asians?
finno-urgian
black
one for the people in oceania (not the aborgines)
aborgines
there we go with the list, though i dont have the names on them all. (there might be more races im not sure. but i know there are not less).
That's very Eurocentric.
The variations within "black" - Khoisan, pygmies, Ethiopians, Bantus, etc are MUCH larger than that between "Aryans", Slavs, "Latins" and Semites. Asians also show huge amounts of variation, from the Nenets to the Indonesians.
Also, words like "Aryan", "Slavic", "Finno-Ugric" etc are non-words when describing race, at least genetically. Genetic "race" doesn't work like language: there aren't any neat families. There are only "Nordic features" that fan out from Scandinavia into the Alps, and "Slavic features" that fan out from Russia towards the Atlantic. Even these features aren't well defined.
In short, a slightly more accurate way to see it would be:
CAUCASOID
* Nordic
* Alpine
* Mediterraneo - Middle Eastern
MONGOLOID
* North
* South + Polynesians
* Native American
NEGROID (Bantu)
NILOTIC
KHOISAN
PYGMY
DRAVIDIAN
AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINES
PAPUAN
MELANESIAN (???)
Even then, my alternatives are still pretty sloppy. So the conclusion is: "races" is a pretty sloppy concept.
Last edited by ranskaldan; November 17, 2002, 00:34.
Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff
Originally posted by GePap
Sonic:
White is incorrect as well, since northern Indians are Caucasians, as are Persians and Kurds and Turks and so forth..
I think that true turks are supposed to be mongoloid. Of course the people of Turkey are virtually entirely caucasian because most of them are descended from the greeks who originally lived in Asia minor, but the turkish people of central asia are mongoloid I think.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
This is neither PC nor scientifically accurate. "Negroids", for example, is very very diversified, ranging from the Khoisan of the Kalahari to the Dravidians of south India.
Dravidians are usually not classified as negroid. They're usually classified as "we don' know". Aborigines it turns out may be the closest thing to living relatives of the predecessors of both caucasians and mongoloids.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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