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Russian Forces Enter Theatre, End Hostage Situation
The deaths couldn't of been avoided because they were probably instantous due to the condition of many of the hostages.
if the Russians made public the gas they used, dozens could have been saved (since a good number of the 120 didn't die instantaniously, but in the hospital, where the doctors were powerless to do anything since they didn't understand what they were dealing with.
BTW, Pravda is reporting that the gas used is BZ-Gas not Sarin Gas. A gas that the Russians have been experimenting for years.
Sorry, Fez, that's bull****. The doctors could have saved many of the hostages had they been given the antidotes. Whether or not the gas was needed is one thing, but even if it was, those people did NOT need to die. That was a product of an extreme lack of forsight and bungling on the part of the government.
Unless of course, there is no antidote and the Russians know there is no antidote.
I do vaguely remembering Vladimir Putin apologising to the Nation along the lines of "forgive us". Perhaps he knows more about the gas than we do?
Originally posted by Hurricane
More and more very disturbing information is starting to beceome revealed in this matter. Apart from the obvious failure to treat the gas poisoned, new information has revealed that the Chechnyans did not in fact intend to blow themselves up after all (like I've been saying from the start). The Chechyan president had called the terrorist leader and managed to presuade him to release the hostages. Now, the important point here is that the Russian authorities were aware of this call. They KNEW he had promised to release the hostages the next morning.
Also, witnesses have said some of the terrorists indeed had time to detonate their bombs but didn't.
I couldn't find a reliable source for this on the net (read it in the newspaper), but if this information indeed is correct, it seems the Russians stormed the theatre ONLY because they didn't want to be embarrassed. Giving the Chechen president credit for ending the hostage situation would not have helped them continue their efforts to take care of the Chechen problem.
There is something very Alice and Wonderland about this post.
Fentanyl I've heard of. It's a potent narcotic which can be administered by patch. I'd never heard of it being used as a gas. Like I said awhile back opiods are fairly big molecules composed of multiple organic ring structures. I don't know how it would be possible to turn something like that into a gas.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
Nice save axi. You still sound like a paranoid bigot but I drop the adjective of loon.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Nice save axi. You still sound like a paranoid bigot but I drop the adjective of loon.
Your way too generous.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Since you (MOBIUS) seems to have migrated to this thread, can you respond to this post for me?
OK
It's a completely different situation, as the Russians withdrew completely and allowed the Chechens to mess things up of their own accord - whereas to this day, the Israelis are still extending their vice-like grip of W.B. and G.S. through their spider's web of illegal settlements choking out the heart of the Palestinian land...
Completely different!
If you can find me gloating about the Israelis 'deserving it' and/or justifying suicide bombings as a legitimate means of retribution in a thread about Israeli civilian casualties in Israel, feel free to dredge it up and I will duly apologise - as I have done to St. Marcus...
Hell, I'm on a roll - might as well kill two birds with one stone...
From what you're saying, there should be plenty of examples to choose from...
Oh great! Now it's possible to inhale yet another type of narcotic! If the gangs ever figure out how to reproduce this stuff and market it the streets of America will be covered with corpses.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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