200 Australians missing in Bali Blast

[Winston]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
...And now Australia is in the same boat as the US, because they climbed in!

I'd prefer to be in the same boat with the US and the rest of the free world if the alternative is catering to terrorists by remaining silent when they attack innocents.

[Case]

I'd say that this attack means that no Australian troops will be participating in any attack on Iraq. There's no way that the Australian people are now going to ever approve a government policy which involves sending the best bits of our military to the Middle East to fight in someone elses war, and any politican who proposes this would now be signing their political death certificate.

[Case]

Incidently, I like the way Australians start apportioning blame as soon as a disarster hits - it certainly beats US style flag waving.

[The Mad Monk]

What happens if it turns out that this was in response to Australian 'interference' in East Timor?

[Pekka]

I don't know about international laws, procedures etc. But I just thought about these things again. Now, about terrorism and harboring countries.

Nations should be obligated to protect their citizens. Also foreigners who are visiting. If there's a terrorist attack, like bombing incident, the country where it happens is obligated to do _everything_ in their power to arrest these terrorist and also allow the country where the victims are from make their own investigation fully co-operating. Every time. If country is unable to get these terrorist, they are not capable of running this country, since they are not in control, and the country is ruled by terrorists. Simple as that. This country should not even be recognized by other countries. It's a country in anarchy.
If they don't give their absolute everything and co-operate with victims countries investigators, they show their lack of interest, and victims country can decide what to do with them. They are then letting foreigners getting killed, and do nothing about it.

In either case, the terrorists should be in control fast. If they are lacking funding or what ever the reason, then they are not capable of running a country. Then terrorists are ruling, and that country should not be dealt with. Simple as that. I don't know if this is how nations do business already, but this is the way I think they should do it.

[Lincoln]

This is not a matter of supporting the United States. Like it or not there are some people in this world who hate anyone who is not a fanatical Muslim (or fanatical whatever). The civilized world will be drawn into the war on terrorism regrdless of what the United States does. It is a huge mistake now to engage in infighting among ourselves. What can Australia do now alone for example to fight terorism? And what can the United States do alone -- or France? It is an international conflict and we cannot escape the necessity to get along. One thing is certain and that is there are people in this world who do not listen to reason and their express targets are the innocent. Surely this is a common enemy.

[SlowwHand]

Don't like being in the boat? Climb the hell out.
But when you're up to your ass in alligators, don't expect to climb back on board.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Especially considering that many cite the policies that he supports, and America's blind support of the Israeli state under any circumstances as the cause of these terrorist attacks that are currently sweeping the World...

I would have thought that the East Timor mess would have been a more likely cause for this attack. Has there been a group that has claimed responsibility that I'm not aware of? Or are you just assuming things not in evidence?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Lincoln
This is not a matter of supporting the United States. Like it or not there are some people in this world who hate anyone who is not a fanatical Muslim (or fanatical whatever).

This is as much a baseless assertion as assuming it was because of Australian support. We don't know yet, that's all we can say.

Certainly, as has been cited, there was plenty of talk beforehand about resentment of Australian support for the U.S. policy. Considering the huge Muslim population of the area, and Al-Queda's reach there, it is just as reasonable to believe they may be behind the attack as anyone else.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Has there been a group that has claimed responsibility that I'm not aware of? Or are you just assuming things not in evidence?

Come on Dino, do you really have to ask that question of him? Anything that he can remotely blame on the US and Israel will draw him out.

Case: If the reason Australia refuses to do something is because it is afraid of these attacks then expect to see this everytime Oz is confronted with a difficult decison. Make your arguments about it being wrong or right about attacking Iraq all you want but the reason better not be because you are afraid.

Oh and I love the way you like to insert your little comment about American flag waving. Apparently you get your information from biased sources or you see what you want to see. We have plenty of finger poiting and blame seeking over here thank you very much.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sprayber
Come on Dino, do you really have to ask that question of him?

Yes. Making him come to terms with his racist attitudes toward Muslims is an important part of his becoming a better person.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yes. Making him come to terms with his racist attitudes toward Muslims is an important part of his becoming a better person.

Your good deed for the day?

[DinoDoc]

I try to help at least one person a little bit each day.

[Bereta_Eder]

that's a matter of supporting the US.

and it's ok to support it when your interests are common but if they are not then don't (to the point that the US terrorism this time doesnt affect you).

i'm sure many european countries will never have the fate of bali just because of that.

[Sprayber]

I think think there is a little more than just a little help that will be involved.


schmoo: I hope that you hear from your brother soon please tell me any info.