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    Ming, Hope you don't mind the second thread but this story is bigger than Stefu's conspiracy thread.


    More than 200 Australians still missing
    October 14 2002

    · More than 200 Australians unaccounted for
    · First victims arrive in Sydney
    · Australian dies on flight to Darwin
    · Bush calls attack cowardly
    · ASIO team flies to Bali
    · Australian tells of five teammates dying

    More than 200 Australians remain unaccounted for following yesterday's devastating terrorist blast in Bali, a spokesman for Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said today.

    The spokesman said commercial airlines were putting extra flights to bring home Australian tourists while further RAAF C-130 aircraft carrying injured would arrive in Darwin this morning.

    "The death toll overall is believed to be in excess of 180. We understand that 13 Australians have died, although those figures are fluid," he told AAP.

    "The department is working to clarify those numbers as the situation stabilises. There is believed to be 110 Australians injured and a further 220 unaccounted for at this stage."

    The spokesman said Australian officials were working closely with Indonesian authorities.

    He said the Australian Consulate-General in Bali had organised one medical evacuation of five of the most critically injured who arrived in Perth early this morning aboard a BAC-111 aircraft.

    The Australian Defence Force had deployed five C-130 aircraft with medical teams to transport patients from Bali.

    The first landed in Darwin this morning with 15 on board, one of whom died en route.

    A second C-130 is expected in Darwin later this morning with 22 on board.

    The spokesman said Garuda had put on an an additional two flights from Bali today while Qantas had scheduled three extra flights to Sydney today and one to Perth tomorrow.

    First victims arrive in Sydney

    Sydney hospitals have taken in 13 people injured in the Bali bomb blasts.

    Two aircraft carrying injured Australians landed at Sydney airport this morning, where a fleet of NSW ambulances were waiting to rush them to hospitals.

    A NSW Ambulance spokesman said 13 of the injured were on the first flight, with a further six on the second.

    "Twelve (on the first flight) were taken to St George Hospital for treatment, eight of which were stretcher patients and were not able to walk for one reason or another," he said.

    "Another one went to Royal North Shore Hospital."

    He said the six aboard the second aircraft had minor injuries.

    "They were examined by NSW Ambulance officers and were allowed to leave to go and see their own doctors," the spokesman said.

    Two NSW Ambulance officers left for Bali last night with a MediVac team, and a further four left about 6.30am (AEST) today to help bring patients back, he said.

    CareFlight spokesman Ian Badham earlier said about half of the patients arriving in Sydney had burns, ranging from superficial to serious, while one woman had a fractured skull.

    Others had cuts and bruises.

    Mr Badham said those injured had been accompanied on one flight by a CareFlight trauma doctor and paramedic, who had stabilised them for the trip home.

    Australian victim dies on flight to Darwin


    One of the first 15 injured Australians flown by the RAAF from Bali after a suspected terrorist bomb blast died en route to Darwin today.

    The Hercules left Denpasar last night only half full of casualties because some of the victims were too ill to delay take-off until more arrived, a defence spokesman said.

    More than 24 hours after a bomb destroyed two bars in Kuta, a victim died during the three-hour flight to Darwin.

    The plane touched down at 1.45am CST (0215 AEST) at Darwin airport where nine ambulances and an ambulance bus were ready to take them to the Royal Darwin Hospital.

    The mostly young patients, all of them burn victims, were carried, pushed in wheelchairs or walked unaided across the tarmac.

    "I can tell you the first 15 victims of the tragedy have arrived and sadly one of those died in transit," hospital medical superintendent Len Notaras told media shortly after the victims arrived.

    As many as four were in critical conditions while six or seven would be well enough to go home within days.

    With up to 100 victims expected to be flown by the RAAF to the hospital in about 12 hours, Dr Notaras said the first arrivals were not the worst injured.

    "We expect that there are still some very serious cases to come," he said.

    The 11 men and three women were all Australians, coming from states including Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia.

    Future medical evacuations were expected to also include American, Canadian and New Zealand patients.

    Many of the patients appeared stunned as they were ferried to the hospital.

    Their injuries included fractured limbs, shrapnel wounds and impaling on wood and glass.

    "The sheer magnitude of what has actually occurred is going to take some considerable time to sink in for a lot of people including ourselves at the hospital," Dr Notaras said.

    "It has been our own, in a sense, 11th of September; it's a tragedy."

    A man, who gave only his first name, Mick, waited at the airport fence for hours hoping to glimpse his mate, a 25-year-old father of two, among the injured.

    His mate, a Top End station hand who he would name only as Wayne, had gone to Bali on Friday for a four-day break with friends.

    "Even if he gets carried off a plane on a stretcher, he's here. I just want to find him," Mick said.

    The next Hercules was due at 6.40am CST (0710 AEST).

    Federal police and ASIO team head to Bali
    Australian Federal Police and a team from ASIO flew to Bali to help Indonesians investigate the bombing, which experts believe to be the work of Indonesian terrorists linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network.

    Federal cabinet's national security committee will meet this morning to discuss Australia's response to the attack.

    Prime Minister John Howard said Australia would take a measured response.

    "It is not an occasion for hot headed responses, but certainly not an occasion to imagine that if you roll yourself up into a little ball all these horrible things will go away," he told Channel Nine.

    George Bush condemns attack as cowardly
    International leaders condemned the attack and US President George Bush offered help to Indonesia to investigate the attack, and called it "a cowardly act designed to create terror and chaos".

    More accounts of the victims emerged this morning, with friends telling how five members of Sydney's Coogee Wombats rugby league team had died in the blast at the Sari and Padi nightclubs in Kuta.

    Australian tells of five teammates dying
    Australian Brett Patterson told today of how five members of the Coogee Wombats rugby league team died in the blast - while others missed death by seconds.

    Mr Patterson, who was travelling with the players from Sydney, said 11 members of the amateur club were on holiday in Bali's Kuta beach when they decided to go to the Sari Club last night.

    Seconds after some of the group had left the building, the two bombs exploded.

    "They got to the corner and then it went off and they turned around and..." Patterson told PA, unable to finish.

    The five left inside the club have been identified among the dead, he said.

    Patterson was having dinner nearby and was about to join his friends for a drink when the blasts ripped through the area.

    The 32-year-old spent the next hours trawling the eight nearby hospitals and the morgue in the capital Denpasar looking for his 26-year-old friend who is missing.

    The two men are both from Dubbo in New South Wales and the young man's brother and two sisters have flown out from the town to help search for him.

    Patterson said they were expecting the worst.

    He described the scenes inside the morgue as "horrific".

    "There's just bodies ... and torsos and limbs," he said.

    The shockwaves caused by the two explosions could be felt 2km away, he said.

    It caused the walls of his hotel around the corner to shake and other buildings in the area had their windows blown out.

    "We got back to the room and it felt like someone was banging on the shutters," he said, adding that there was now a crater around the area where the car bomb had exploded.

    People in the area were still in shock, Patterson said.


    In Denpasar, Bali's main city, the airport was thronged by stunned, mostly young travellers cutting short their holidays and desperate to go home after the most terrifying night of their lives.

    Crowds camped out near a McDonalds, working their mobile phones to make hard-to-get airline bookings. Many had spent the night on the beach, terrified after the blasts to go near built-up areas.

    AAP
    Here's a link to other stories.



    The media here is saying its one of the biggest terrorist attacks ever in terms of loss of life, certainly the biggest behind 9/11, or related to it.

    Mostly young holiday makers were killed and injured. I sense the country is numb and in shock today.
    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

  • #2
    damn...what is wrong with people?
    "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
    You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

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    • #3
      Well, what can I say. What can anyone say...
      Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
      And notifying the next of kin
      Once again...

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      • #4

        My heart goes out to the friends and families of the innocent victims.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #5
          I should say its not just young Aussies either - New Zealanders, Brits, young backpackers from all over the Western world are casualties, along of course with lots of local Balinese people

          The Balinese are Hindus btw, so these muzzie extremists wouldn't care if they died. Another reason, aside from the masses of young Western tourists, that Bali may have been chosen for the attack.
          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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          • #6
            these muzzie extremists

            Don't be too sure about that...
            Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
            And notifying the next of kin
            Once again...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hueij
              these muzzie extremists

              Don't be too sure about that...
              No threadjacking please I saw your theory. If it was true, we would know - don't ask me how

              Seems like it was an attack designed to cause maximum loss of life. A smaller bomb went off in a building and shortly after people had rushed out of the clubs and restaurants into the street, the car bomb went off right in the middle of the crowd
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • #8
                Sorry, it was not meant as a thread jack. It's just that I'm getting a little nervous about looking at Muslims (muzzies in your words) as the latest "evil" in the world
                Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                And notifying the next of kin
                Once again...

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                • #9
                  I trust they find the sick people who are behind this and justice is served. This is sheer madness. Only a mad man is able to do this, this can't be justified in any way no matter how hard you try to look for perspectives.
                  This looks like a big and planned terrorist act targeting western youth, considering where it was done and when.

                  This will also do lots of damage to tourism in these countries, so logic behind this gets even more fuzzy.
                  I think my future plans in travelling will limit to Europe and other western counries for a long time.

                  I don't mean to be rude or anything, so don't take this the wrong way. American citizens have been targeted before (and still), but at least I could see their logic. It's not a great logic to kill innocent civilians, but they had their own reasons. They don't like Americans. They have a common beef with each other. It doesn't justify killing innocent people in any way of course.
                  Now it just seems to be enough to kill western people for some groups, and spread horror. I can't see the logic any more. It has become more 'jihad' then. It's starting to tear the world in two sides if it goes on like this in the near future. This worries me a lot.
                  Americans are on their way in the war on terrorism, targetting is sometimes argued. But if these terrorist groups seems to be having a good time targetting jsut anyone western, then the rest of the western world is getting with Americans stronger and starts dealing with these pukes, and if their governments can't get then in a leash, we all start contributing to the war more and justifying it, since they can't (or are not willing) to take a very strong position on preventing these things, and when they get on the way, they get on the way.
                  This won't happen tomorrow, but if this madness won't stop, it will. I hope this won't happen.
                  Even our peaceful army now is starting to have troops that are able to operate 'in different conditions' which I translate outside the country. Well, this will be another factor for pro-nato people in here when we decide if we want to become a full member or not.

                  Solidarity to people who have been affected by this act of madness.

                  edit: And taking under consideration that the US is about to attack Iraq, why would the terrorists (if they are muslims that is) want to start blasting now? Timing is the worst possible. They would be a lot wiser, if they'd just cool it down for a moment, for Iraq to get maximum chances for peace with the US. And they should know these kind of acts only gives the US more allies and stronger coalition, thus making their situation worse. Do they even think (terrorists) that they actually have a chance in all out war against western civilization? Fools.
                  Last edited by Pekka; October 13, 2002, 21:03.
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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                  "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                  • #10
                    I also hope western world won't buy 'islam is about killing others, western people' crap.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hueij
                      Sorry, it was not meant as a thread jack. It's just that I'm getting a little nervous about looking at Muslims (muzzies in your words) as the latest "evil" in the world
                      The term I used was "muzzie extremists" - I don't blame muslims and I think my views on the ME etc. are, ahem, well known and unchanged.

                      Most of the tourist businesses in Bali are owned by the Indon military or interests close to them so its hardly likely they are going to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs
                      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                      • #12
                        If you want to know why so many are "missing" check out this photo of the car bomb blast, which seems to have been incendiary. The photo was take from some distance away.
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                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • #13
                          ****...
                          "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                          You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                          "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, shit.
                            I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                            • #15
                              More reports coming in - this one from Australian SBS news:


                              TOURISTS FLEE INDONESIAN ISLAND
                              14.10.2002. 12:49:09

                              The threat of further terrorist attacks on the Indonesian resort island of Bali has prompted a mass exodus of tourists. The powerful car bomb attack on two crowded night clubs has led western governments to advise their citizens to cancel holidays there and return home. Most of the 187 fatalities are Australians but also include at least three Singaporeans, two Britons and one each from France, the Netherlands, Germany and Ecuador. Other nationalities, including Italians, were among hundreds of foreigners injured.


                              Source: WorldNews


                              Here's photo of the fires.
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                              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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