OK Pro-Abortionists...Case Study.

[Sonic]

loinburger, yes, contraception is the only actual ability to "remove person coming into existance" and in my opinion it is good. However, if men's and women's sexual cells unite, it's already a person, so, no way to "stop it coming to existance", because it is already in existance. You can however kill him.

fogar ya me has a mental blok ov som sorted

Actually, I have proved my opinion. I am quouting it myself if you can't find:
"it's the fact that if not abortion unborn baby, even one from the first trimester, would in most cases become child"

[Sonic]

I won't comment your post about Lithuanians...

[KrazyHorse]

it's the fact that if not abortion unborn baby, even one from the first trimester, would in most cases become child"

It's also a fact that if two highly fertile people had sex without a condom that they'd make a baby within a month or two. Does tha make their use of a condom murder?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Sonic
I won't comment your post about Lithuanians...

It's okay; apparently without Lithuania and Denmark the porn supply of North America would dry up instantly, wreaking economic chaos...

[Sonic]

No, you unerstood me wrong (or you act so). The fact is that unborn baby will "automatically" become a child if not abortion. While a fertile couple has to do sex to make child.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Sonic
loinburger, yes, contraception is the only actual ability to "remove person coming into existance" and in my opinion it is good. However, if men's and women's sexual cells unite, it's already a person, so, no way to "stop it coming to existance", because it is already in existance. You can however kill him.

fogar ya me has a mental blok ov som sorted

Actually, I have proved my opinion. I am quouting it myself if you can't find:
"it's the fact that if not abortion unborn baby, even one from the first trimester, would in most cases become child"

When they unite, only thing that happens is they become a lump of meat, nothing more.

Btw : Kill does not equal bad, but that is a whole different story.

And Finns are drunks frogger

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Sonic
No, you unerstood me wrong (or you act so). The fact is that unborn baby will "automatically" become a child if not abortion. While a fertile couple has to do sex to make child.

The zygote will become a child only if the mother nurtures it as part of her own body for 5-6 months. There's nothing "automatic" about it.

[Sonic]

Originally posted by Frogger


It's okay; apparently without Lithuania and Denmark the porn supply of North America would dry up instantly, wreaking economic chaos...

Well, I just understood you are making fun of me rather than thinking arguements, so I won't say anything for now to you.

Anyway, say at least one Lithuanian porn site please.

[Sonic]

tinyp3nis, yes, I agree kill is not always bad - again, I am for capital sentence and I do think some "groups" of people should be killed... But yes that is different discution.

However, I do think killing of innocent person is bad.

[KrazyHorse]

But this is actually what one guy told me after travelling around Europe: that if you want to get down and dirty with life, Denmark and Lithuania are the places to go...

[Boris Godunov]

Which "groups" should be killed?

[Sonic]

Seriously mentally disabled people for example. I really hate the explaination "he can't be put in jail because he's insane". And mentally disabled people can grant nothing for the society. If he kills because he doesn't understands his actions he should be killed himself, because unlike with typical murderers there is exacly no way for him to understand his error and not to act so in the future.

[Boris Godunov]

Ok, that's not really killing a "group," that's merely not excusing someone's actions based on their mental capacity and applying the same punishment to them you would to others who committed the same crime.

The way you phrased it, you seemed to advocate killing a "group" based not on what they have done, but who they are. That was what I was really curious to hear about...

Unless you're saying you'd kill all seriously mentally disabled people, regardless of what they had done?

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Sonic
tinyp3nis, yes, I agree kill is not always bad - again, I am for capital sentence and I do think some "groups" of people should be killed... But yes that is different discution.

However, I do think killing of innocent person is bad.

When people have sex and put a condom on, they are infact preventing a child from being born. This is ok with you? But not killing a fetus? Fetus has nothing, so you cant take nothing away from him. He has a life? What? Whats that?? Another word that has not any other meaning than the word itself, like the word to kill we discussed abo0t.
If you really believe in that preventing stuff, why you dont consider using condom as bad as that? It will happen eventually even if not every time people have sex.
Edit: My english...me monkey

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Sonic
No, you unerstood me wrong (or you act so). The fact is that unborn baby will "automatically" become a child if not abortion. While a fertile couple has to do sex to make child.

There is only a 40% chance that a zygote will develop into a newborn. There's nothing "automatic" about it.