Anarchists chant pro-terrorist slogans at Athens rally

[Chris 62]

You could try to be serious now and then.

[Felch]

Originally posted by VetLegion
for example, we in croatia generally like the Irish because we see them as small catholic people oppressed for centuries by a bigger neighbour. like us

That's prolly it. My father is Irish (Well, ancestrally), and prolly has the same sort of feelings.

[Felch]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Felch, you are very mediocre on picking on me. You cant even make a tiny scratch on my shiny argumentative armour. But practice makes perfect and untill you decide to keep on "fighting" you will remain just another dumb yankee

Well, if you say it, it must be true. I was wrong to ever doubt the knowledge a Greek would have about my own country. Certainly you know more than I ever could about America.

[Bereta_Eder]

Oh you know them too you just don't admit them (to a foreigner).

[Felch]

Look back at what I said. You said the culture America exports is crap, I agreed. I agreed that we've committed atrocities. I agreed to everything that you could support with a reasonable amount of evidence, or where you were more knowledgable than me.

[Bereta_Eder]

It's not all crap, I love your music.

[VetLegion]

Clinton was re-conciliatory and a master of rehtorics. A hell of an actor too. What I think of him is not important what the relations between US - EU were at the time of his presidency are.

He got named the butcher of the Balkans though from everybody in the region

the title Butcher of Balkans is not earned simply by dropping a few bombs

the current Butcher of Balkans is Milosevic, whose career includes four wars: slovenia, croatia, bosnia and kosovo. who can beat that?

except croatians (who easily forgot their massacre of thousand of jews and serbs in the past

you should know better then to pull old who-did-what-first question in the balkans

croats got the very last beating in wwII. after the end of combat, over 100 000 died from partisan revenge and in 'marches of death'

and not to mention huge number of the partisans were - also croats. so as a nation, we got the beating few can match. our whole history is full of tragedy, so wwII was no exception


the point is, you cant try to justify irrational actions of the present with something that happened in the past.

serbs justify their rebbelion in croatia with wwII (as I showed, we could do the same)

in bosnia, they actually claim war started when some muslim killed some serb on a wedding

it is clear both of these reasons are nonsense

[VetLegion]

and about jews, more were killed in greece in ww2 then in croatia in ww2. while greeks turned the head the other way, or charged high for transport by ship

they were killed everywhere germans set their foot. also in serbia you seem to glorify, belgrade was proclaimed the first 'judenfrei' city

if you want to dig through history, there is enough dirt in the region to cover the planet. probably twice too

[VetLegion]

che, I read these repeated claims by you about kosovo

I can understand paiktis with his 'serbs are our orthodox brothers' point of view, but I am curious about your motives
do you defend Milosevic, because

- you are anti NATO in general
- you think Milosevic was a commie/socialist attacked by capitalists
- you like serbs in general, and dont like albanians in general
- you simply want truth to be known

...or something else I missed?

[Bereta_Eder]

No vet legion, your history in WW2 is shameful and cannot be compared with that of serbia or greece. while the last 2 fought to protect its people (jews and whatnot included since they were greeks) and got captured in the process, you actively slaughtered them.

to deny this is to be yourself a nationalist and you know it very well

1941 - Nazi Germany invades. A 'Greater Croatia' is formed, also comprising most of Bosnia and western Serbia. A fascist puppet government is installed under Ante Pavelic. The regime acts brutally against Serbs and Jews as it seeks to create a Catholic, all-Croat republic. Hundreds of thousands lose their lives.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1097156.stm

that's your history and your shame.


now in the recent war with yugoslavia Tudjamn was himself a "milosevic" and did what milosevic did. he just didnt take the rap for it

[Bereta_Eder]

also if you say you understand my affiliation with serbia since it's orthodox then i can say i understand europe's stance on the issue against serbia since it's catholic.

if one holds water the other does too. and from the looks of it, it did, a lot.


even felch, a yankee who cant even point to the map where yugo is, has a father who thinks all catholics should be defended. is it too much of a stretch of an imagination to guess why croatia, a country which actively took part in genocide in the past and also now, never got punished for it, since it was catholic?


now of course this is mostly absurd, but so is your own claim

[Ned]

paiktis, What does Greece and Serbia want NATO to do now about Kosovo and Macedonia?

Withdraw and turn it back over to the Serbs? Allow the KLA to form a government? What?

[loinburger]

Blah blah de ****ing blah, Greece is ****ing great, they'd never do any of the awful ****ing things that those American pig dogs do, etc. Can we let the ****ing thread die already? Now you're just trolling the trolls, and it's preventing the formation of some potentially lively (yet ultimately short-lived) troll threads. Share the wealth, says I.

Although I must admit, I've gotta give Paiktis credit for making his nationalist trolls as blatantly offensive as possible. Not only do you get the termites out of the woodwork this way, but you also help insure that your troll thread doesn't die a slow painful death. Wutang, big fella. Wutang.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by paiktis22

also if you say you understand my affiliation with serbia since it's orthodox then i can say i understand europe's stance on the issue against serbia since it's catholic.
...
now of course this is mostly absurd, but so is your own claim

So 'Catholic' Great Britain, Catholic Netherlands, Catholic Germany... oh, no, sorry, I meant Protestant Great Britain, Protestant Germany and the Protestant Netherlands. Which other 'Catholic' Protestant countries did you have in mind? Sweden? Norway? Finland? Estonia? Latvia? Denmark? And that's without including people who would say they hold no 'political' allegiance to either the Catholic or Protestant confession.

[axi]

paiktis, What does Greece and Serbia want NATO to do now about Kosovo and Macedonia?

Withdraw and turn it back over to the Serbs? Allow the KLA to form a government? What?

I don't know what Greece and Serbia want, I know what I want: Bring back Yugoslavia!

100 years ago, the Balkan socialist parties were working together for a uninted socialist balkan state. This vision was shattered by the balkan wars of course.