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My post wasnt about any conspiracy theory, it was just pointing troubling facts.
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Sorry, I do futures and futures options trading in the energy field as part of my consulting work. Caucasus oil fields have been known since before WWII, and assuming that pipeline ever gets built, it's really not going to be that big of a deal.Originally posted by MosesPresley
1.9 billion is a lot, but it is nothing compared to the profits that will be made off of the pipeline.
If you can't see the point, I can't help you. You don't think it is the least bit suspicious that Unocal and it's employees are running Afghanistan? Wake up!
Karzai is hardly "Unocal" - he's a local with connections (gee, seems natural for politics) who was a Unocal consultant. Anybody with brains trying to do business in the area would hire guys like Karzai to make introductions, grease the skids, so to speak. That doesn't make him a policy-maker for Unocal, or mean that they own him. Besides, he has no influence whatsoever in the relevant part of Afghanistan.
You're the one who is searching for significance from a series of very tenuous and essentially meaningless connections. Wake up yourself, you fell asleep in front f too many X-files reruns.
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by des-esseintes
I looked at it. They need some more clothes. They seem to think that their underwear constitutes a full Royal Panapol and are totaly unaware that the US doesn't have an emperor.
Oh and Piss off. I prefer to think on my own.Comment
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Several articles that support my assertions. Read them and decide for yourself."In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
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You think that's bad?! What about the Giant Invisible Orbiting Apolyton Banana of Doom?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Anything but the Invisible Aardvark!
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That was more than I needed to know.Originally posted by jimmytrick
This is all very interesting but you folks need to focus on the important stuff. ABC will soon report that Saddam uses Viagra and is tender and gentle during sex.
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Explain this one smartasses:
This from an article by Christopher Hitchens in the Nation.
Consider the following. On September 11, you could not fly and I could not fly. The national airspace was locked down. But twenty-four members of the bin Laden family, living in the United States, were gathered by private jet under the auspices of Prince Bandar Bin-Sultan, the Saudi ambassador in Washington. With what he gratefully describes as the cooperation of the FBI, the Prince mustered all the bin Ladens, who at the first opportunity were taken under FBI escort to Boston's Logan Airport (departure point for two of the death squads) and then permitted to fly home with no questions asked. I do not think that any question of racial profiling would have been involved if members of the immediate bin Laden tribe had been inconvenienced to the extent of being asked a few questions. Boasting of this amazing coup on October 1, Prince Bandar told Larry King an affecting story about one of these privileged escapees:
But you know what hurt me? A young man said to me, "Prince Bandar, I always couldn't understand why the American Japanese wanted a memorial. What's the big deal?" He said: "Suddenly I realize: I'm a rich man, I'm in Harvard, and I have to leave my school, not because I was guilty, but because the emotions are high." That really touched me, Larry.
"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry LimeComment
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Something the conspiracy theorists might like to consider:
How much do you have to pay a man to fly an airliner into a building?
And if the planes were being flown by remote control, wouldn't one of the cellphone-using passengers have mentioned it? Or the desperate pilot, either over the air or on a borrowed cellphone if the radio didn't work?Comment
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You pay the man's soul a trip to heaven with 72 virgins."In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry LimeComment
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Originally posted by MosesPresley
Several articles that support my assertions. Read them and decide for yourself.
And I don't even like Bush.
An article about allegations doesn't suddenly make them true or false.
and back in 1996-97, just about everyone hailed the Taleban as a far better alternative than what had preceded it.
Sorry, but that's still not a very big pipeline project. The 24 tcf gas field is nice, but nothing to get real excited about. (I converted from cubic meters). If it was a domestic US field, it would supply about 16 months of US natural gas consumption, assuming you could extract the entire field (which never happens, there's always residual).
That's not even close to the capacity of the underdeveloped Wyoming-Colorado basin gas fields, so there are plenty of domestic pipeline projects to be done which are more profitable.
It pales in size compared to the current flaplet over the Saudi's 25 billion pipeline/gathering project.
Without exclusive rights to the production fields and gathering systems, and with a competing pipeline (existing transportation routes through Russia), it's a nice little project, but not a huge make-or-break deal for any oil/gas company. Not even close to being worth any apocalyptic conspiracy, even if the people involved had the means and were so inclined.
It just is another demonstration of how ignorant conspiracy theorists are on both economics and any technical subjects that are inconvenient to them. Stick with alien abduction stories.
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You assume a great deal about me. I'm not sure why what job a person has, is important in determining their credibility, but since you stated yours, I'll state mine. I'm an investment banker with J.P. Morgan, now JPMorganChase. Do I have cred now? :P"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
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As an investment banker you may have great credit but by definition investment bankers have no credibility.Comment
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Well, I sure missed a lot."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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