Top 10 signs your neighbor is brainwashed

[MosesPresley]

Originally posted by Ethelred


Vice President Truman didn't have a clue 'till after Roosevelt died.

The again a lot of the claims for a cospiracy in the assasination of President Kennedy are false. For one is ALWAYS claimed the autopsy photos are a secrect and that no one has seen them.

I have seen them. On the net. If anyone really wants to see the inside of Jack Kennedy's skull I can supply a URL. The photos were released a long time ago but the conspricy theorists are never bothered by facts.

Not to get in a huge Kennedy assassination debate, well maybe. I take it you believe the Warren report? Just one point I would like to discuss, the pristine bullet found conveniently on the stretcher next to the body. Wait, that is a lot like that terrorist passport that they found in the WTC rubble. They can't find the frigging black boxes from the planes, but they magically find the hi-jackers passport. If you buy that one, I've got a bridge for sale.

I don't know what the hell happened on 9/11, but I think we need to find out. I wouldn't want this to end up like the JFK files. How long are they locked up for, something like 70 years. They even extended the length of time a few years back. Why the secrecy?

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by MosesPresley


I don't know what the hell happened on 9/11, but I think we need to find out. I wouldn't want this to end up like the JFK files. How long are they locked up for, something like 70 years. They even extended the length of time a few years back. Why the secrecy?

Obviously you are one of those that are still listening to conspiracy fantasists instead for your alledged "facts". They aren't locked up. Haven't been for decades. 'Pristine' bullets are what happen when they don't hit bone however there actually was no pristine bullet in reality. There was no magic bullet either. There is no need for magic for a bullet to be deflected by flesh and bone especially a short bullet. HOWEVER for a bullet to Kennedy from the Grassy Knoll would definitly take magic. The bullet would have had to magicaly go through the front of the the limo's windshield. Plus of course the Zapruder film clearly shows Kennedy's brains being blown out forwards and to the side despite the false claims from the fantasists.

Now it is possible that Oswald had help. It is possible that he even had a backup. However ALL the evidence shows that he fired three and possibly four shots. He had plenty of time as Dr. Alvarez showed long ago.

Have some reality:

Home page for The Kennedy Assasination

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

The Single bullet theory explained and the fanatasists counfounded

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm

The so called pristine bullet from the only angle the Fanstasists ever show



The alledgedly pristine bullet from a different angle than the Fantasists ever show.




Not exactly pristine is that?

Head wound. If you want to see it click on it. Some people aren't used to this stuff although this one is B&W and so close up its hard to associate it with a human being.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/head.jpg

Bogus evidence used by Fansisists

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bogus.htm

If there is information on the Kennedy assasination that site most likely has it. It is VERY extensive. When I ran accross that site about two years ago I was very surpised at just how much information that I had been told was unavailable was indeed available, much of it for decades.

[Capt Dizle]

I'll have to admit to being a tad suspicious of the Kennedy killing.

[Ethelred]

Suspicious is reasonable. Thinking that a person must be daft to hold Oswald responsible is not. Take a look at the site Jimmy and you will find most if not all questions that you may have answered or at least addressed in reasonable manner.

I am reasonbly sure it was Lee Harvey Oswald that killed Kennedy. I am not sure he didn't have any help but he certainly didn't need any. That Kennedy had enemies is certain. That any of them had a thing to do with his death is speculative at best.

Sure would have been nice if in 1963 when I was watching the TV live Oswald had been able to continue on to where the Dallas police were taking him instead of being shot on national television. Its an interesting memory but I would have prefered a trial.

[MosesPresley]

Just because there are a lot of crackpot theories and deliberate misinformation, doesn't mean that something doesn't reek, in the JFK assassination. The left lost all of its leaders, JFK, RFK, MLK, and some might even include Malcolm X, in the 60's to assassins' bullets. You may want to believe coincidence, but it looks kinda funny from where I stand.

[MosesPresley]

I'm not going to pretend to be a Kennedy expert, but I will answer your photo.

As far your photo is concerned; what is that a picture of anyway? Is it the bottom of the bullet? That bullet in the above picture couldn't have possibly have struck bone and went through two bodies and possibly a car seat.

[Ethelred]

JFK - Assasinated by a US communist

RFK - Assasinated by an Arab

MLK - Assasinated by a Southern racist

I don't see much of a connection there. There were two attempts to kill President Ford and one on Reagan. Sheer luck they survived. No I don't think you have much showing some vast Right Wing Consipiracy to kill liberals. Especially since JFK wasn't a liberal and neither he nor his brother were members of some vague left.

Don't mix them up with Teddy.

The thing that reeks about JFK is that the assasin was murdered. Unless you are silly enough to believe an assasin when they claim to be innocent or a patsy. Sure would be nice to know why Ruby shot Oswald but he never said and he had plenty of time. I suspect even he didn't know. He had a very bad temper and had been hanging around the area for a while. He just may have worked himself into a rage. People do stupid things when they get angry enough.

People all over the country were in shock at the time. All you could see on TV was coverage of the assasination. Even the September 11 attack didn't completely take over TV all day for three days on every channel. Of course there were a lot less channels.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by MosesPresley
I'm not going to pretend to be a Kennedy expert, but I will answer your photo.

As far your photo is concerned; what is that a picture of anyway? Is it the bottom of the bullet? That bullet in the above picture couldn't have possibly have struck bone and went through two bodies and possibly a car seat.

I think its the bottom of the bullet but if you look closely at the other photo you will see the bullet is mishaped there as well. Its wider than it should be in places. Tests have been made with the same kind of bullet and dummy bodies. Similar results for the bullet were found. See that link for the single bullet theory above. Thats where the photos came from.

Just thought of another item about the bullet. Its a jacketed bullet. Much of what you see in the bottom of the bullet is lead forced out of the bullet's base. The same effect was seen in the test bullet but more of the lead in the actual bullet was left in Connally body than in the dummy. You can see those on this page:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bullet3.jpg

[des-esseintes]

Again, the only human mindset beating "Will to Power" is "Fear". 9/11 is a really shabby, awful, transparent-as-glass conspiracy job, but the way some people here try to hide their own fear and cling to the phony stability in their lives, so afraid to be without their precious lies for a second that they instantly ridicule and expel those who would oppose the lies, even when it obviously leads to their own doom...

...it's more transparent than air


To futilely further my point, as well as provide cheap laughing stock, I post a compilation of some of the best, most convincing, most on-topic, most intelligent arguments used by the opposition to the original post:

So if your opinions differ from left-wing nut jobs, you're brainwashed?

Great to know

ha ha ha

You would be suprised how many british people are also selfish morons.

The number of stupid people in the world doesn't suprise me anymore.

You folks must have alot of faith to believe in that conspiracy crap that has as much holes as swiss cheese?

Like I said earlier, the number of stupid people in the world is hardly suprising.

ha ha ha ha

(serouisly you should stop and take a look at what your writing. Your making an ass of yourself)

You are a moron....

Everytime CNN plays that picture of the smoking towers my fist clenches and I wish Bush would Nuke everyone opposed to the War on Terror.

Translation: "Everyone who doesn't agree with my narrow, petty, little political point of view has been brainwashed. I am unable to come up with any real arguments to support my opinions therefor I shall resort to name calling and gigantic conspiracy theories because my fraggle little ego can not withstand the knowledge that I may not be the fountain of all wisdom."

Does anyone else feel dumber for reading that article?

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn...

Let's see if I get the jist of it: The evil Amercian President and CIA, lackeys of big oil, created a fake Islamic terrorist group, and decided to make some airliners disappear (or were they ever really there), using borrowed alien technology to make them invisible. The passengers on the airliners are now having their teeth examined by four foot tall gray creatures who weren't able to get it up for so long that they need our DNA to reproduce, but they can move through solid objects without being detectable. They did this, and secrectly snuck 120,000 lbs of av-gas into the two WTC buildings (those office workers never check what's in their desk drawers) so we could wipe out the financial center and many of the trading firms that big oil relies on, to have an excuse to invade one country who's government we didn't recognize, in order to put in a part of a pipeline that would pass through what, four or five countries, to take oil from a different country we weren't invading to a port facility in another country we weren't invading? And blowing up buildings in New York was supposed to help this process along how, exactly?

(the next one actually had spirit)

The only thing conspiracy theorists have for a motive is... nothing. Just a phantom assembled from their own limited story-telling ability to rope in the gullible and technically ignorant. Their audience must have a convenient on-off switch for their cynicism - always apply extreme cynicism to any "official" description of events, yet get on your knees and open wide with total uncritical acceptance for any conspiracy theory description. If equal standards of cynicism are applied, the conspiracy theories will be seen for what they are - nothing more than internally inconsistent fantasy.

Clearly Michael has not been wearing his tinfoil hat. The Orbital Mind Control Lasers have him in their power. Not **** Chaney's OMCL, the other ones, the ones belonging to the Giant Orbiting Invisible Aardvark.

Anything but the Invisible Aardvark!

[Jack the Bodiless]

Meanwhile, a lot of genuine concerns about Bush and the present administration are now being discredited by being associated with this WTC baloney.

...Aha. The article itself is part of a sinister right-wing conspiracy to make ALL arguments from left-wingers appear equally foolish!

[Bas]

Actually, the author makes a few good points in the beginning, with regards to the Bush administration and possible selfish reasons for an attack on Iraq, but unfortunately he mixes it up with bull**** conspiracy theories. I have no doubt whatsoever that Al-Qaeda is responsible for the WTC attacks, and while the american secret agencies may have been incompetent in preventing it, it's extremely unlikely that they are in some way themselves responsible for the attacks. For one, far too risky. Testing new weapons in the middle of the desert is one thing, blowing up thousands of your own citizens in the middle of NY is something completely different.

[Ethelred]

It appears that des-esseintes does not believe in the Giant Invisible Orbiting Aarvark. This is good. The Aardvark does not wish to be known to the infidel. This means the Giant Invisible Orbiting Aardvark's Orbiting Minds Control Lasers did their job extremely well on him. He now thinks that there are conspiracies where there are none and fails to see the real ones.

It is good to know that the Europeans still have not discovered the truth about their world. They still do not understand that the 220 Volt electricty is being used to burn out their minds. Nor have they ever notice that 50 cycle AC power is the exact frequency needed to haze over their eyes when the Secret Masters walk among them. They haven't even noticed that the flicker of their 25 frame per second televisions are causing them to become the hopeless minions of the true masters of the world, The Pentium Group.

He won't even believe what I am writing here for him to read on this forum that is the thin end of the wedge of America's Pentium Group. We of the Pentium Group thank the Marks for their efforts in this matter. The Giant Invisible Orbiting Aardvark will reward them both in this world and the next. After all, who do you think kills the kittens when no buys from Apolyton.

[des-esseintes]

Originally posted by Ethelred
It appears that des-esseintes does not believe in the Giant Invisible Orbiting Aarvark. This is good. The Aardvark does not wish to be known to the infidel. This means the Giant Invisible Orbiting Aardvark's Orbiting Minds Control Lasers did their job extremely well on him. He now thinks that there are conspiracies where there are none and fails to see the real ones.

It is good to know that the Europeans still have not discovered the truth about their world. They still do not understand that the 220 Volt electricty is being used to burn out their minds. Nor have they ever notice that 50 cycle AC power is the exact frequency needed to haze over their eyes when the Secret Masters walk among them. They haven't even noticed that the flicker of their 25 frame per second televisions are causing them to become the hopeless minions of the true masters of the world, The Pentium Group.

He won't even believe what I am writing here for him to read on this forum that is the thin end of the wedge of America's Pentium Group. We of the Pentium Group thank the Marks for their efforts in this matter. The Giant Invisible Orbiting Aardvark will reward them both in this world and the next. After all, who do you think kills the kittens when no buys from Apolyton.

LOL, you actually believe this crap ?

[Ethelred]

LOL, you actually believe this crap ?

An excelent response. You may even be a member of the Pentium Group in disguise but it is much more likely that you are simply yet another of our unknowing minions that never knew about Tinfoil Hats or perhaps forgot to wear one as the Orbital Mind Control Laser passed overhead.

Oh and don't believe that silly movie They Live. Special Glasses will not expose the Secret Masters. Those silly aliens the glasses reveal are under OUR control. Just remember not to run out of gum when the time comes. You don't want to have to kick ass when you should have been chewing gum. Gum after all protects the Illuminated Mind from the deliterious effects of flouridated water.

Fnord

[red_jon]

Originally posted by MosesPresley


Not to get in a huge Kennedy assassination debate, well maybe. I take it you believe the Warren report? Just one point I would like to discuss, the pristine bullet found conveniently on the stretcher next to the body. Wait, that is a lot like that terrorist passport that they found in the WTC rubble. They can't find the frigging black boxes from the planes, but they magically find the hi-jackers passport. If you buy that one, I've got a bridge for sale.

'

I didn't know this. People actually believe that the terrorist's passport just happened to survive?