4000 Jews stayed home on 9/11

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin
What lie is it that we are supposedly believing?

1) They hate us for our freedom.
2) They hate us for our democracy.
3) They hate us for our religious tolerence.

The reason why so many people believe it was the Israelis is because the Israelis are believed to be all powerful and capable of doing anything.

[chequita guevara]

Boshko beats me to the punch.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
1) They hate us for our freedom.
2) They hate us for our democracy.
3) They hate us for our religious tolerence.

Certainly these three charcteristics are anathema to the large majority of the the power struture and elite in most of the arab world and much of the muslim world.

[chequita guevara]

And Lefty demonstrates. Thanks.

[Shi Huangdi]

"
1) They hate us for our freedom.
2) They hate us for our democracy.
3) They hate us for our religious tolerence."

True to an extent. Part of their hatred includes that of our culture, of which those 3 are a part. Also, many of the hard-core islamists want to dispose of any government anywhere that rules by other than the Sharia. It would be foolish to think they are bravely(if dishonorably) fighting against US imperialism- they have their own imperial ambitions, that being to make all the world to submit to Islam.

[CyberGnu]

Ahh, but Tom Tomorrow beat you all by over a year:

[Shi Huangdi]

Tom Tommorow really is a crappy artist. What is with the background there? And that really poor drawing of Wanda doesn't change her facial expression once.The only thing that changes with Biff's expression is his eyes moving.

[player1]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
1) They hate us for our freedom.
2) They hate us for our democracy.
3) They hate us for our religious tolerence.

They hate you beause of giving BLIND support to Israelis.
(they are our alies, we don't care what they do to arabs)
And Israelis aren't realy a "good" guys.
(at least not against Arab nations)

Anway,
they ahte you becase of your foreign policy.

And unfortunatly, American citizens are baraly infomred about their foreign policy (at least average Americans).

So at the end it has nothing to do beause of American internal policiies (they rely wont care if you are even comunist or dictatorship). It's all about Americans foreign policy.
Which is VERY agressive.

[Zevico]

"At least not to Arab nations"
Gee, I wonder why that could be? Is it because Arab goverm,emts and media constantly spread propoganda and myth about Israelis and Jews? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw. Couldn't be.
They hate Americans because of their foreign policy is a half truth. The Arab governments spread lies and propoganda against America and Israel. Thus, the Arabs in those countries hate Israel/America and their foreign policies, which because of lies/propoganda by the Arab Governments, have been misinerpreted as "imperialism and 'lets conquer the Arab countries".
Anyone who thinks Israel doesn't want peace (referring to the good guys statement of player1's post) should take a look at our culture and especially our music. We are addicted to songs about how great peace would be, how we want to live in peace, all of this ideological stuff. We were even more addicted to it pre-intifada (for obvious reasons).

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Tom Tommorow really is a crappy artist. What is with the background there? And that really poor drawing of Wanda doesn't change her facial expression once.The only thing that changes with Biff's expression is his eyes moving.

You see the picture but you don't see the picture.

[CyberGnu]

Hmm, I wonder if it is possible they could hate a nation that stole their land land and continually oppress 5 million muslims... All the propaganda in the world could possibly make them hate Israel LESS, but not more.... Israels actions does that all by itself.

Shi, actually the lack of movement adds something to the cartton I think. It bring attention to the fact that it is the thoughts of the characters that is important, not what they are doing. I like it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by player1
They hate you beause . . .

Someone failed to read the quote before my post, didn't he.

[player1]

Originally posted by Zevico
Anyone who thinks Israel doesn't want peace (referring to the good guys statement of player1's post) should take a look at our culture and especially our music. We are addicted to songs about how great peace would be, how we want to live in peace, all of this ideological stuff. We were even more addicted to it pre-intifada (for obvious reasons).

Hmm...

And whose land was that before 100years?

P.S.
By the way, no one of them is a good guy.
The fault of American politic is that they always say: Israelis are good guys, Israelis are good guys, Israelis are good guys, Israelis are good guys, Israelis are good guys, etc...
And thos Arabs are bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, ect...

WWII is long over. Jews are not only victims today.



P.P.S.
Hating someone just beacuse of their way or life, or democracy is just pure Amreican propaganda.

The sooner that American people realise, the sooner will peace come.

[player1]

For example I don't see some great hate toward England, Germany or France.

They are also progressive democracies.

So it must be other reson.



P.S.
Chances for peace were much better several years ago.
And then came Israelis elections.
And shift in policy.

[Shi Huangdi]

"For example I don't see some great hate toward England, Germany or France.

They are also progressive democracies. "

I thought there was a report saying Al Qaeda was planning on targeting the British Parliament too........

In any case, of course they are going to focus on us most since we are the leader of the world. But do not think Al Qaeda is going on some sort of noble anti-imperialism crusade. Why do you think it is that no moslem governments have any support for Al Qaeda? The super hard-line militant islamists want more Islamic revolutions and spread Taliban-style government all over the Islamic world. They take the Koran literally and very seriously, and the Koran demands to spread Islam by force.