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  • #61
    Why wasn't this thread just titled "Place All Trolls Here"? It would have saved some quantum uncertainty.
    Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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    • #62
      Ah, it gives up some interesting phase-space waveforms to collapse
      "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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      • #63
        Courtesy to you, so that you can create this thread.
        Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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        • #64
          simple: cut off its balls
          "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
          You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

          "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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          • #65
            I would withdraw from the UN - or better yet, take over the HQ in New York and kick the UN out. I would then replace it with an Alliance of nations that either support the US or are at least not hostile. The Alliance would declare membership in the UN to be a hostile act, justifying economic sanctions, etc.

            I can imagine that the UN would soon be empty of members. But if it continues, they could still hold meetings, like the one now taking place in SA, and declare the US the greatest threat to world peace, etc., just as they do now, but without our money or our support.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Ned
              I would then replace it with an Alliance of nations that either support the US or are at least not hostile. The Alliance would declare membership in the UN to be a hostile act, justifying economic sanctions, etc.
              So the US would become a pariah and place sanctions on the rest of the world.

              Interesting.
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #67
                I have no specific advice to offer America Sneak. I just know that if they listened to me more they'd be doing a lot better
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • #68
                  *Begin a process of de-arming the citizens.

                  *Begin a process of explaining to the public that property rights are not absolute.

                  *Begin a process of explaining to the public that there are no such things as "Natural Rights"


                  I pretty much think that everything would fall into place after that

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                  • #69
                    All I'm going to say is that this thread is a perfect illistration of why pure democracy is a really dumb idea...

                    Wraith
                    Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

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                    • #70
                      Wraith, that is very true... some of the ideas here are incredibly outrageous.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by David Floyd
                        Improving America...

                        Foreign Policy:

                        -Close all foreign military bases immediately, beginning with those in the Middle East. Deploy no military forces outside of the Western Hemisphere (and in the Pacific, no naval forces past Midway Island or so).
                        -Complete, unrestricted free trade with every country, no matter who it is, from Communist China to the UK
                        -Withdrawal from all foreign military alliances, especially NATO
                        -Establish a policy of no more conventional wars or interventions, but let it be known that any direct attacks on America will be met with nuclear weapons

                        S.
                        No, you wouldn't like your own policies at all. The minutr that some tin-horn ME dictator cuts off your oil supply you'd be at the forefront demanding intervention.
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #72
                          I love how alot of these "fixes" involve shreading various parts of the Constitution.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by David Floyd
                            Improving America...

                            Domestic Policy:

                            -Begin to follow the Constitution EXACTLY as it is written. This means to end gun control, for instance
                            -Elimination of federal social programs, especially Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, federal housing, federal welfare, etc.
                            -Elimination of the income tax
                            -Reduce the military across the board by at least 95% in every area except for ICBMs
                            -Scrap Echelon and any other federal law enforcement programs used for monitoring citizens without a warrant
                            -Immediate release of all citizens held without trial

                            I think that'll do for starters, although I can think of plenty more ways to improve the US.
                            I take it that you have no close relatives who are elderly or genuinely disabled?
                            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                            • #74
                              I would withdraw from the UN - or better yet, take over the HQ in New York and kick the UN out. I would then replace it with an Alliance of nations that either support the US or are at least not hostile. The Alliance would declare membership in the UN to be a hostile act, justifying economic sanctions, etc.
                              Replace the UN with the UN, huh? Brilliant!

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                              • #75
                                No, you wouldn't like your own policies at all. The minutr that some tin-horn ME dictator cuts off your oil supply you'd be at the forefront demanding intervention.
                                No, I actually wouldn't - but this probably wouldn't happen because there is no reason for fundamentalists in the MidEast to hate us anymore.
                                Further, if we had to, we could buy from Western Hemisphere sources. Yes, the cost would go up, but we'd be OK.

                                I take it that you have no close relatives who are elderly or genuinely disabled?
                                Well, my grandparents of course (elderly, not disabled), but I don't see what that has to do with anything. I don't mind helping them out if they needed it, I just have a problem with the government forcing me to help out other people.
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