Should I send my boys to an all boy school?

[Asher]

/me wonders if blackice realizes that online learning is simply an application of different learning styles in practice

After all, the conclusion was:

Before faculty rush to find out the effects of learning styles on student outcomes, they should first address the issue of whether learning style differences exist at all.
...
Faculty should use social learning style inventories and resulting data for the purpose of facilitating class preparation, designing class delivery methods, choosing educational technologies, and developing sensitivity to differing student learning preferences ...

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

growing up in an all male household

You mean the mother was a MAN?!

You dummy Imran, everybody knows that mothers are not women

At least in the eyes of their sons anyway........unless there is something very weird going on in your house

[blackice]

Look, blackice, I'm not sure whether you're just REALLY stupid and think I'm the one that's really stupid, or if you're high and are getting a kick out of it. But I assure you I'm not the one talking out of my ass.

Your “opinion” again.

You're the one stereotyping all genders and neglecting everyone else who doesn't fit in the stereotype while at the same time whining how the current system neglects males in general

Gender issues are not stereotyping Dr. Asher you have to get over that concept in order to understand yourself, let alone any other gender issue.

(which is certainly not the case from my own personal experience, and is ALSO not the case for any links or evidence in studies you have provided).

Dr.Asher you did not read any of them your “opinion” is not very informed.

Citing links in learning differences gets you absolutely nowhere, since we know people learn differently. Citing links that generalize how each gender learns does not guarantee every member of that gender learns the same way -- it stereotypes.

No Dr.Asher it gives insight into the differences between the genders in hopes to improve the over all education system for everyone.

If you want to show that the current system is dominated by "feminists" (as per one of your first posts) and neglects males in general, I haven't seen it myself and certainly don't see the evidence anywhere in North America. Males seem to be doing just fine.

Wow a lot of traveling you have done. You conducted this research can we see the papers? Have you published them yet? Give it up Dr. Asher your ruse is over.

Now if you want to cite some reputable sources showing how males are being neglected in the face of the feminist oppressors running the school districts, be my guest.

I did several times it is a matter of history and fact, this clearly shows you have no idea.

Somehow I'm not surprised you've managed to turn this thread into another thread with your vendetta against women.

More lies, I do not have a vendetta against women and have not turned this into one. I posted on topic. Gender differences in learning. You have ignored it from the onset. Ok you did make the comment about Gay porno’s coming from all boys’ schools. Do you have proof this is a common ongoing problem?

Oh, I'm sorry, you don't have a problem with women. It's just a coincidence all of your issues trace back to women.

Gender issues usually involve women Dr.Asher, and yes I post male issues and children’s issues and women’s issues. It is you that have the “opinion” these issue are anti-female. It may surprise you to know women head most men’s groups. Misandrists can be male too obviously…

Now the topic Dr. Asher was does he send his kids to an all-male school.
The only objections so far are about becoming gay in one, involved in gay porno flicks…and or the personal experience of not relating to women because they went to one.

Pretty weak so far. On the other hand years of studies show it’s an advantage educationally for the kids. Easy choice really.

Have a nice night. You too

[blackice]

Yes Dr. Asher it is not gender related is it? Some conclusion maybe they should draw up on the 15-year studies that have been done on difference between same sex classes and mixed. After all both genders agree same sex classes scored higher marks. I thought that was the topic, more “smoke and mirrors” from the boy in the room…

Good night Dr. Asher

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by blackice
I would I think they will get involved with girls soon enough, boys will be boys.

The best advantage being the all boys schools treat boys as boys. Mixed schools more often then not tend to ignore what boys are all about. IE they are becoming more feminized and show no tollerance to boys.

Medications are increasing in boys to help them be calm just like the girls. The vase changes to the education systems have created a drop off of boys doing well.

While the current studies indecate it is because of the lack of understanding of what boys are all about. We have vast studies to show what girls are all about and a lot of those have dictated the changes to the mixed school systems.

I could go on, surfice to say being a boy and being taught in an environment that understands what it is to be one can only be an advantage to your kids.

This actually summarises my view quite well We have something here called " the crisis in boys education". This crisis has coincided with increasing co-education and less male teachers.

Like girls, Boys have special gender related needs, they seem to do better in a single sex environment. The point Sneak and others made about the sensivity of teenage boys is also very valid.

[blackice]

True good to be back on topic.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


I love this idea that just because some of you went to co-educational schools that you understand women better, or indeed at all.

That has got to be the biggest piece of self delusion I have heard for a while

:shrug:

Think what you want.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by SuperSneak
That's right...the cold hard facts of this world is that networking pays.
The rich do get richer indeed...and if I have a choice between my kid rubbing elbows with future captains of industry vs. future food stamp cashers, I'm picking the former.
Not that it matches my idealistic fantasy worldview, but the older I get, the more I realize it isn't nearly so much what you know as who you know.
Sad, but true.

Indeed the Old Boys' Network is very much alive.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns


:shrug:

Think what you want.

I will and I think the idea you know more about women than I do because you went to a co-ed school is laughable So I laugh

Maybe you're just more "house trained" shall we say

I went to an all male school from the age of 10 but there was an all girl school right across the road, Mary Immaculate College (lol, the only immaculate thing about them was their sex drive, which matched ours perfectly).

I don't mean to boast when I say a little rendez vous on the way to school for some frantic groping with whatever girlfriend I had at the time , followed by a quick deeply penitent novena of course, was part of my morning routine from about year 8 or 9.

But I was also damn to glad to say goodbye to said girlfriend at the school gate and spend the day with my mates doing fun boyish things with other boys

[CyberGnu]

Horse, are you intentionally ignoring the male chauvinist part of the issue?

A product from an all boys school might not have a problem to get laid (hell, pretty any guy out there can give anectodal evidence that *******s score more than nice guys), but they might have other issues dealing with the opposite sex. As I said before, I've seen firsthand the 'us vs. them' mentality...

[CyberGnu]

Asher, I don't quite get what you mean. Are you saying that we shouldn't have separate classes for boys and girls because there are exceptions to the rule? If we assume that 80% of boys belong to the SP group, and 80% of all girls belong to the IF group, diving up SP-tailored education to all boys and IF-tailored education to all girls would give 80% education tailored to their character, instead of the 40% we currently have... Right?

[CyberGnu]

OH, BTW, the option of moving up a class didn;t exist in Sweden. sweden suffers quite badly from socialism, where one of the fundamental tenets is that everyone is equal. Encouraging a smart student would make the morons feel bad, and we can't have that, can we?

Another reason why I now live in the US...

[Alexander's Horse]

I'm not sure sexism comes into it. School is a small part of the puzzle and probably not the key determinant.

One thing I'm determined to do is to get them to treat girls better than I did but I don't think my rape and pillage attitudes were shaped by the school environment. I was just a sh*t

Having all boys, Mrs Horse and I are really looking forward to the day when girls brighten up our smelly farting burping household. We want them to feel welcome and safe. We've already talked about this, probably reflecting the testosterone overload we currently have, which is hard to ignore I have to say.

[CyberGnu]

BlackIce, before you declare victory, do your little dance or whatever it is you do... You might want to actually understand what Asher is saying. From your posts so far it is pretty clear that you:
A: have no idea what Asher is talking about
B: Should avoind the word "opinion" as you don't seem to grasp the meaning of it.

[CyberGnu]

Horse, you sure about the size of the part? I'd say the school years are very important... (Although, I don;t know if you;ve mentioned this so far, how old are the boys. What level school are we contemplating?)