Kaliningrad

[Drake Tungsten]

If You study history You'll learn of pre-Germanic citizens of Prussia. About the conquest of it, about Polish colonisation of the south and Lithuanian of the north of it, about Prussian states protesting against ceding them by Poles to Hohenzollerns...

Well, if you go back far enough, all of Europe was Celtic. Should we give Prussia to the Irish?

Prussia is German. Give it back or face the mighty armies of the Fatherland.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


That's partially your own fault.

I know.

Why do you keep feeding trolls like this? Why are you constantly b!tching and arguing with every moron, who provokes you by spouting hatred towards your country?

I don't know.

Just lean back, post something like "Yea, sure! " and let the dumbasses fight their wars between themselves.

I can't. I know it's silly, but I just can't.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


Oh but you must admit it is a bit fun to watch Serb........

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


Granted. Even a lot of fun.

Perhaps you guys should nominate me on "troll of the year"?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
Serb is ok in general,

Ya uzh dumal vse, pizdec- voina

albeit woth lunatic theories most of the time

Yeah, sure!

( Serb).

Saras

[DanS]

"Grrr...!"

Hey, is the old Saras back?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Why don't the Russians just make Kolingrad a special free trade zone? I'm sure they could sign a treaty with the EU and the Russian economy would benifit by turning Kolingrad into their modern "window" into the west.

What exactly do you suggest?

Could you give any guaranty that after say 30 years, Heresson's generation wouldn't trying to grab it for Poland?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Heresson
Hi



Of course. Russia, which can't win a war with 150x smaller Tchechenia.

Really?
Their so-called "regular" formations were defeated within a couple of months since second war started. If by "can't win a war " you mean that we can't win war vs. guys which ways of fight wars based on such things as explosions on markets, blow-up of apartment buildings, kidnaping civilians and childrens and as they call it -"unique military operations" like capture of hundreds of hostages in Mosow's theater, then yes, we are unable to win such "war", yet.
Perhaps you know who is able?
Israel can stop suicide bombers? The president of USA could guaranty that Sept. 11 will never happen again?
I doubt. So, shut-up.


The rest of your post is total mess of quotes, perhaps you were drunk when you typed it?

Oh I forget, future pope can't drink, right?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Saras
Tassadar5000:

Hey moron

I'm sure your giving us your finest debating skills there.

with Stalin as your avatar,

Judging by your statement, my avatar is furfilling its purpose :P

find Lithuanian fallacies, subtract the number from your own and try to get a positive number;

Yes. One Russian fallacy in particular is recognizing the independance of Lithuania. Look at what a pitiful excuse of a country you have. Of course, with your hate-mongering people, you deserve it.

[QUOTE} The only one that angers me is you. [/QUOTE]

I'm flattered that I have such an honour

Serb is ok in general,

YOU of all people judging Serb...

give or take - he at least tries to BASE his arguments,

I assume your referring to my comment about the pathetic Polish military? Maybe I should refrain from commenting on it and focus on the even-more-pathetic Lithuanian military?

albeit woth lunatic theories most of the time

Grrr...!

This is just begging for it......

ACK!

[The Vagabond]

Uncle Joe makes a couple of revolutions in his coffin upon seeing Tassadar's avatar.

[Serb]

Cool avatar.

[The Vagabond]

Yeah, the avatar is cool. But the first part of the signature is not so cool. I can't think of any poster "Power to the Great Stalin". This poster never existed in reality.

[Ned]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


If this qualifies as 'inventing the rocket', can we celebrate Jules Verne as the inventor of time travel, and Isaac Asimov as the inventor of jump drive?

And, Jesus should be credited with the invention of the transporter. (Ascension.)

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Serb
Could you give any guaranty that after say 30 years, Heresson's generation wouldn't trying to grab it for Poland?

A first step would be the integration of Poland in the European Union. Although I admit, that nationalists like Heresson are a big obstacle. May be we should give Poland a few more years to develop and educate their citizens, especially the young ones. In the 30s, Germany was full of people thinking alike, and we all know how it ended. Today most Germans, except of a small bunch of flag-waving morons, got over the loss of Silesia, Pommerania and Eastern Prussia and also don't care about Alsace and Lorraine anymore. In a couple of years all this will be European, and national differences will matter less with the time. Poland would be wise to prepare its citizens to be Europeans instead of flag waving nationalists. "Europe" means more than receiving billions of Euros for subsidies and infrastructure help and flooding the continent with cheap potatoes.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Yeah, the avatar is cool. But the first part of the signature is not so cool. I can't think of any poster "Power to the Great Stalin". This poster never existed in reality.

Really? I remember seeing it somewhere....

[Rasbelin]

I think Sir Ralph's last comment and summary is good. The EU isn't just a matter of getting financial support like many of the Poles (especially the peasants) think. Bollocks. Finland is one of the countries who's trying to get rid of subsidies, unlike the Poles who whine for more, even if they 1. aren't yet members 2. haven't yet received a single €. Sir Ralph also mentioned the former German territories of Silesia, etc. I could compare the same situation to the Karelia issue. Well, we do have the fanatic Finn Pekka here, but in general it's a diminishing number of people (I would count them in hundreds or maybe up to a thousand) and they're mostly elder people. So I'm pro European as the rest and also underline that e.g. Heresson should drop the case of Kaliningrad; it's a waste of time and you won't get more €€€ from the EU because of that.