Kaliningrad

[St Leo]

Can't the Kaliningradians take some sort of Ferry to St. Petersburg if they don't want to bother with the overland paperwork?

P.S. East Prussia belongs to Canada anyways.

[bogi]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
The Poles also expelled the German civilians completely. Who refused to go, was murdered.

Dont blame us we didnt start the war or kill 30 million soviets 6 million jews and others(also in millions). The Germans won the war compared to Poland.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by bogi


Dont blame us we didnt start the war or kill 30 million soviets 6 million jews and others(also in millions). The Germans won the war compared to Poland.

Two wrongs....

[Boris Godunov]

Murdering innocent civilians isn't justified because their government did the same to your people. In fact, one could argue it makes you worse, because you more than anyone should know how wrong that is.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
No thanks. It's ruined and economically bankrupt. We don't want it anymore.

But Poles want it. Why in the hell we should give it to Poland?

Those whining creatures would gain nothing. You know what Heresson said to me once? If you guys give Kaliningrad to us, we left you St. Petersburg! Kakov naglez a?

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Serb
But Poles want it. Why in the hell we should give it to Poland?

Those whining creatures would gain nothing. You know what Heresson said to me once? If you guys give Kaliningrad to us, we left you St. Petersburg! Kakov naglez a?

That's partially your own fault. Why do you keep feeding trolls like this? Why are you constantly b!tching and arguing with every moron, who provokes you by spouting hatred towards your country? Just lean back, post something like "Yea, sure! " and let the dumbasses fight their wars between themselves.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


That's partially your own fault. Why do you keep feeding trolls like this? Why are you constantly b!tching and arguing with every moron, who provokes you by spouting hatred towards your country? Just lean back, post something like "Yea, sure! " and let the dumbasses fight their wars between themselves.

Oh but you must admit it is a bit fun to watch Serb........


















.......Anger the Americans/Lithuanians/Poles on this board to the point where they have to restort to debating fallacies in order to prove their point

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Oh but you must admit it is a bit fun to watch Serb........

Granted. Even a lot of fun.

[Saras]

Tassadar5000:

Hey moron with Stalin as your avatar, find Lithuanian fallacies, subtract the number from your own and try to get a positive number; until then, shut the **** up.

The only one that angers me is you. Serb is ok in general, give or take - he at least tries to BASE his arguments, albeit woth lunatic theories most of the time ( Serb).

Grrr...!

[Ramo]

So what is it that the Kaliningradians actually want? That should be the deciding factor...

[Dinner]

Why don't the Russians just make Kolingrad a special free trade zone? I'm sure they could sign a treaty with the EU and the Russian economy would benifit by turning Kolingrad into their modern "window" into the west.

[Drake Tungsten]

The citizens of Konigsberg long to be returned to the Fatherland. How could they want anything else?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ramo
So what is it that the Kaliningradians actually want? That should be the deciding factor...

After WW2 Stalin forcably removed all the Germans (and a fair number of the Poles) and replaced them with new ethnic Russian settlers. I imagine the Russians will want to stay with Russia.

[Provost Harrison]

Surely there would be no problem with sailing from Kaliningrad to St Petersburg? Wouldn't this remedy most of the problem?

[Heresson]

Hi

Why should every country even care? Why dont they ALL invade poland and divide it up? It would probably be very easy to....

Of course. Russia, which can't win a war with 150x smaller Tchechenia. Lithuania is our friend, and it is weak anyway. Byelorus exists only thanks to Russian help now. Ukraine is our friend, and it is very poor now anyway.


And personaly I highly respect Germans. Russians and Germans are historicaly tied. We have much more good pages in our history then bad pages like wars.


I was here from the beggining, you just resurected old Heresson's whine-thread- "return all to Poland, everything from Paris to Brazil"

LOL. When I saw this thread I thought: "OMG, Heresson strikes again!" But it turns out this is a very old thread.


I say, give Kalingrad a high speed train connecting Kalingrad to Russia. This cannot be a major problem.

Give it back to Germany! It's the last remanant of Prussia! What could be more German than Prussia!

Konigsberg should be returned to Germany, along with Danzing and the rest of East Prussia. Those lands are rightfully part of the Fatherland.

If You study history You'll learn of pre-Germanic citizens of Prussia. About the conquest of it, about Polish colonisation of the south and Lithuanian of the north of it, about Prussian states protesting against ceding them by Poles to Hohenzollerns...

Poland got Pommerania and Silesia as compensation for their eastern territories, which were occupied by the Soviet Union 1939 and not given back after the war. The Poles also expelled the German civilians completely. Who refused to go, was murdered

First of all, I'd like to remind You that Silesia and Pomerania were historically and at start ethnically
tied with Poland. Secundo, unlike in Tchechoslovakia,
it's not Poland that ordered to expell Germans, but the
major powers of the world. Who wanted to stay could,
if He declared Polish nationality.

Surely there would be no problem with sailing from Kaliningrad to St Petersburg? Wouldn't this remedy most of the problem?

It's not about real situation.