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  • #91
    Originally posted by Fez
    And why not? I probably won't anyways, but why not?
    A bunch of little Fezes running around seems weirds. You seem like the type of person who would have kids for the wrong reason too. That could lead to them rebelling to extreme exents.

    Originally posted by Fez
    WRONG. I said I was probably going to move towards the middle, but stay on the right.
    Ahh. My mistake.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Fez


      Hardly. My family (on my mother's side) is working class farmers.


      Too bad your father (you know, the supposed US diplomat who ships you all over the world and apparently buys you anything you want) seems to have spoiled you so much that you can't appretiate that past.


      Judging from the way you acted in that thread about Mexican farmers fighting to keep their land, I imagine that your families past as "working class farmers" would not be something you where proud of, or appretiate.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Fez
        I will repeat once more, I will not move towards the left. And that is 100% guaranteed! Don't try to discuss it with me because that is final.
        No it isn't. Situations I had little control over have led to my political beliefs being all over the scale.
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        "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
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        • #94
          Too bad your father (you know, the supposed US diplomat who ships you all over the world and apparently buys you anything you want) seems to have spoiled you so much that you can't appretiate that past.
          I do appreciate the past, infact I have visited my mother's house which had no electricity and dirt floors. It is abandoned but that is the way it was.

          Judging from the way you acted in that thread about Mexican farmers fighting to keep their land, I imagine that your families past as "working class farmers" would not be something you where proud of, or appretiate.
          I had reason behind that debate, not short-sighted stupidity.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Apocalypse

            No it isn't. Situations I had little control over have led to my political beliefs being all over the scale.
            I am staying on the center right for the last damn time.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #96
              Until you turn left?
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Fez
                I am not the one with the arbitrary illogical system... so that comment was directed at you...
                Yeah you are... any logical system is arbitrary. Your logic is arbitrary in that you assume what everyone else agrees upon is true, monkspider's logic is arbitrary because he makes arbitrary logical leaps. You start being ignorant, and when information shows you you can't use conventional logic anymore, you progress to being illogical, in which case, if you manage to not become a blind fanatical communist/Christian/whatever, you soon realize that you are completely insane, so you decide to just shut up for a while and not agitate while you sort things out.
                However, the illogical part is nice because it makes you feel like you understand all the prophets (which you pretty much seem to do). Egoes grow way too big when you think you think like Jesus, Confucius, Buddha, and the rest of the prophets combined .

                The last part feels like a debilitated depressed Buddha. It's the part where you accept things, you realize that you were hypocritical in the previous stage, you really FEEL that change should start in the person, and you begin to change. Human nature becomes a myth.
                Everything feels different. You lose the nationalism, you believe what you said stronger than ever before, and you have no desire to say it anymore. You have gained the best, most faithful convert - yourself, a very difficult victory indeed.

                It starts with a thought, and ends in disaster (victory? disaster? paradoxes abound, all can be understood).
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                • #98
                  This is unbelieveable. Unbelieveable. SHUT UP KRAYZEENBK, I AM TIRED OF YOUR RANTINGS.

                  Unbelieveable... just unbelieveable....
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Until you turn left?
                    Yes. And pigs fly.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • Originally posted by Fez
                      I do appreciate the past, infact I have visited my mother's house which had no electricity and dirt floors. It is abandoned but that is the way it was.
                      Oooo...visiting a place is just like the actual experience. Just try a life where you have to buy many things yourself with a job you had no help in getting. That is my actual experience. People who get as much help from one or more parents as you sicken me.
                      "Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
                      "At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
                      "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
                      "In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General Ludd

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                      • Nah, you'll move towards the Left. One of the points that I was trying to make is that the impressions and needs of other people in your life will tend to moderate you over time. The title of this thread says "protestations against capitalism" but that is merely because the Left is far, far more vocal on this board than the Right and so, thus, I aimed it at the larger audience.

                        But do not think that the principle doesn't apply both ways...

                        Kropotkin: yup. You're right. There are a lot of assumptions, but you know something? I'm pretty OK with making them. Marriage happens to more people than it doesn't. Same with kids, same with the upward mobility desire. Of course the post doesn't apply to 100% of people, but honestly: does one really have to put disclaimers on every point? Is it not obvious that, for example, the bit about kids will (likely) not apply to gay couples?

                        To reiterate: Youthful radicalism decreases: the beliefs might not, but the passion does. Anyway, you'll get bored. Bored of making the same arguments, bored of being angry all the time, bored of hearing the same rebuttals, bored at the lack of progress. Once the boredom reaches a certain level, you'll find something else... hopefully a nice spouse and kids.

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                        • Pigs fly in your country? Now is that Spain or Argentina now?
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • I won't move towards the left because I will never think like that.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • Originally posted by Apocalypse

                              Oooo...visiting a place is just like the actual experience. Just try a life where you have to buy many things yourself with a job you had no help in getting. That is my actual experience. People who get as much help from one or more parents as you sicken me.
                              **** YOU. I LIVE WITH THEM, I WILL HAVE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THEM AND SUPPORT MYSELF. A ******* LIKE YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IS THE WAY IT IS FOR ME. I HAVE TO MOVE ON AND PROBABLY GET A JOB TO COVER MY COLLEGE EDUCATION.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Um.. didn't you say you were going to be center-right. If you don't move towards the left that would require moving so far to the right that you end up on the left and continue moving to the right until you come to the center.
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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