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  • #136
    the Athlon was good, and good versus it's Intel Opponents

    before Intel was better

    after the P4 was out for a while, Intel was better (and is better now)

    note that for budget, I would still go with Athlon

    Jon Miller
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    • #137
      Guys I've found an interesting thread in another forum on a totally different site (not Apolyton). I think you might like it. Here a Mac expert presents some hardcore facts and dispells some myths about Macintosh computers. And instead of comparing Macs and PCs he simply defends Macs by presenting the facts about them. The thread offers many good links about Macintosh computers.

      I'm going to post a link to this as soon as I have read through the entire thread and have researched all it has to offer, and have gotten the thread starter to fix the broken links in it.

      Cheers!
      HAVE A DAY.
      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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      • #138
        Cloud9, why do you think he avoids comparing Macs to PCs? I assure you it's not because it makes the PCs look bad.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #139
          Originally posted by Asher
          Cloud9, why do you think he avoids comparing Macs to PCs? I assure you it's not because it makes the PCs look bad.
          Well, of course not. Even I agree that PCs have some advantages, but I also agree that they have some disadvantages.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • #140
            How can you establish the disadvantages without comparing them?

            Could you please tell us the disadvantages?
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #141
              Originally posted by Asher
              How can you establish the disadvantages without comparing them?

              Could you please tell us the disadvantages?
              I'm not getting into that discussion right now, Asher. Wait 'till I post the link. Perhaps then you can register (vBulletin, it's FREE!!!) at the site and talk with this Mac expert (who knows much more than I do) about Macs. . .

              edit: . . .and the disadvantages of PCs in comparison to Macs.
              HAVE A DAY.
              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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              • #142
                Macs are outdated, cloud9... that is one major point. Even asher would agree with me...
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #143
                  Originally posted by Fez
                  Macs are outdated, cloud9... that is one major point. Even asher would agree with me...
                  Again, we'll discuss later. . .
                  HAVE A DAY.
                  <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                  "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                  For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                  • #144
                    Originally posted by Cloud9
                    I'm not getting into that discussion right now, Asher. Wait 'till I post the link. Perhaps then you can register (vBulletin, it's FREE!!!) at the site and talk with this Mac expert (who knows much more than I do) about Macs.
                    It's a simple question, Cloud9.

                    First you say it doesn't compare PCs and Macs, then out of nowhere you say PCs have disadvantages. Do you not realize that in order for something to have a disadvantage in comparison to something else, they would need to be compared?

                    I'll gladly talk to this Mac Expert. I'm betting beforehand he uses buzzwords without a full understanding and will emphasize useless frills in the OS, which would be like advertising a pack of gum FREE with the purchase of your new car.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #145
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      I'll gladly talk to this Mac Expert. I'm betting beforehand he uses buzzwords without a full understanding and will emphasize useless frills in the OS, which would be like advertising a pack of gum FREE with the purchase of your new car.
                      You're way too critical, Asher. Now stop trolling!
                      HAVE A DAY.
                      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                      • #146
                        Cloud9: It is the beauty of it! It is part of his character... being way too critical...
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #147
                          If by critical you mean objective, then of course I am.

                          And since you're spending thousands of your own dollars, I'd hope you'd be too.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #148
                            Originally posted by Asher
                            If by critical you mean objective, then of course I am.

                            And since you're spending thousands of your own dollars, I'd hope you'd be too.
                            No, I mean you criticize too much.

                            edit: That's exactly what you meant, wasn't it?
                            HAVE A DAY.
                            <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                            "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                            For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                            • #149
                              I'm sorry.

                              Buy a damn Mac and put us all out of our misery, and add "Proud Mac User" to your sig.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #150
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                I'm sorry.
                                Now you're being a gentleman!
                                HAVE A DAY.
                                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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