Help Cloud9 make a decision about what kind of computer to buy

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Cloud9


Voodoopc not for me then. Even though I'm willing to spend some extra cash on my computer, that IS WAAAAAAAY TOO EXPENSIVE FOR ME!!!

that is for customized

the ones they have show on their site are more in the 2000 price range (are still pretty sweat)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

We have ASPs that Dell/Gateway/Compaq/etc can only DREAM of obtaining. The last time we compared ours was 3x higher...

I would never buy from one of those companies

if I want cheap, I will build my own

if I want sweat, I will have a company like yours do it (or Alienware or GamePC)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher
http://developer.nvidia.com/docs/IO/...whitepaper.pdf

How far is it out??

Jon Miller

[Asher]

The NV30 will be shipping from OEMs and on store shelves in October-November.

It's a weird situation. The design's been done for months, but it's being produced on a 0.13 micron transistor process. The company who makes the chips for both ATi and Nvidia is the Taiwanese Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC). Right now all they have fully working is the 0.15 micron transistor process (which is bigger and slower than 0.13).

ATI made their Radeon 9700 on 0.15, Nvidia on 0.13. Even though they were both designed around the same time, ATI will get their card out months in advance due to TSMC having problem with manufacturing the 0.13 cards.

[blackice]

I can upgrade a intel 300+ whatever (or Amd equal) to a p4 1.7 for $300.00 Cdn. No biggy get em while you can.

[JohnIII]

But IT CERTAINLY IS NOT FOR ANYBODY WHO DOES ANYTHING MORE THAN THE DEAD AVERAGE, not adequate for gamers, application people, or anything else more than typing, making cheesy graphics and internet surfing (even that has its limitations.

Yeah, who would ever use a Unix-based system for getting anything done ?

[Asher]

Certainly not me, John.

[Q Classic]

eh. if i were you, i'd fuggedabout all these guys ranting and raving about which one sucks and what not.

if you really want a computer that you can be happy with, find a friend who has a good mac, and find a friend who has a good windows pc. play around with it, see what you like better. i mean, really, it comes down to what you're more comfortable with. gaming, as you've mentioned, said is not as big of a concern, so. and in terms of productivity, it doesn't really matter, because few people actually require processor-intensive suites like maya4 or what not.

once you pick an os, be it OSX 10.2 or WinXP SP1, it's easier from there.

if you pick a mac: do you plan to upgrade? if no, then maybe one of those pug-fuggly imacs is for you. do you favor looks over performance? maybe a nice barebones mac tower is good. do you favor performance? try a dual processor tower.

if you pick a pc: do you want cutting edge innovation? be prepared to pay a little more, for perhaps maybe alienware or voodoopc or what not. do you want a decent reliable system that's relatively easy to upgrade with good tech support? try dell. do you want pure crap? try any of those bargain types, or gateway.

just... follow your bliss. find what's comfortable, and pick it. screw processing power. it doesn't sound like you'll need it that much.

[Wraith]

Well, in some synchronicity, I've stumbled upon some video and graphics editing benchmarks.

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/07_jul/features/cw_macvspc2.htm

Enjoy.

Wraith
I am the Imp of the Perverse -- Knowing this won't help you, either.

[SpencerH]

I've used macs and PC's for years at work and at home and during that time I've switched my opinion about which is better back and forth. For now though, macs are so far behind hardware-wise that the choice is obvious unless you want to throw away your money.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

NOTICE: The original post in this thread has been edited.

[Asher]

@ the benchmarks Wraith has linked to.

A Dual 1GHz G4 can't even come CLOSE to match the speed of a SINGLE Pentium 4 2.53GHz. Imagine a dual Pentium 4 2.53GHz Xeon.

The 2.8GHz Pentium 4s come out in 1-2 weeks, also.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Asher
@ the benchmarks Wraith has linked to.

A Dual 1GHz G4 can't even come CLOSE to match the speed of a SINGLE Pentium 4 2.53GHz. Imagine a dual Pentium 4 2.53GHz Xeon.

The 2.8GHz Pentium 4s come out in 1-2 weeks, also.

And name a single normal user who would need dual anything?

But I do agree, the G4 is based on antiquated architecture and is to be avoided at all costs. And by no means reaches the speed of a Pentium 4. (Damn, even I wouldn't see siding with Intel but here I got no choice)

[Asher]

Did you see those benchmarks, Fez? A single Pentium 4 was about on par with the performance of dual Athlon XPs...

[Giancarlo]

Edit: Now I read those closer... that place must of been bribed by Intel... it was one not two Intel.

Asher shut up please. AMD Althon XP 2000+ is like 1.7Ghz or something... that Pentium was 2.5Ghz or something like that. Actually that was pretty good. It is not like I have sympathy for a company that will be made into garbage (Intel) after AMD releases its new line.