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    The two year intifada has taken a major toll on the Palestinian working class. Almost 200,000 construction, agricultural, and service laborers haven't been able to work since the latest uprising began. These jobs helped drive the Palestinian economy. No more.

    Today, after having gone through their savings, having sold off their posessions, and international aid not getting through the PA, the Palestinian working class is angry and they hold Arafat responsible. Workers received $100 from the Palestinian trade federation, to help see them through the economic crisis. Some of the larger families have gotten as many as five payments, but most workers have only recieved one payment. The union is also trying to help out with free medical care.

    Workers complain that the PA still drives around in cars, still can get gas. "The police already complain if they get their salaries one month late," says one worker. "We haven't had salaries for two years."

    "Hassanein says he voted for Arafat in the elections six years ago, but now regrets it. This time around, he does not know who will get his vote. 'The situation is so bad,' he says. 'Just in order to get a little bit of money, most people are prepared to make a deal with the devil.' By 'devil' he seems to refer both to the Islamic extremists who oppose Arafat and to the Israelis, for whom most laborers would gladly work again if given the chance."[1]

    The PA is clearly worried about the mood among the Palestinian workers. But so too is Hamas. Although various Islamic charities are tied to Hamas, the organization itself is also held responsible for the situation in which the Palestinian workers find themselves today.




    [1] Ferry Biedermann, "In Gaza, blame turns toward Arafat," Salon.com, July 19, 2002

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    Last edited by chequita guevara; July 19, 2002, 14:15.
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    I sooo hope that they will change their tune. If they will , I am pretty sure that Sharon will too. If not , he won't be elected.
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #3
      Yes, I read in the paper this morning that 50% of all Palestinians in the occupied areas are now below the poverty line, (which I believe was set at $2.00 a day)

      Now the question is what the impact of this will be. Some say that it will erode support for all the extremist groups since some feel that their newly found poverty is a result of Isreal clampling down on the extremists. When the choice is politics or the survival of your family, survival is usually the choice.

      Or will this continue to feed the cycle of desperation that led to this point and provide a whole new breeding ground for extremists.

      No one knows for sure but all predict more bloodshed.

      The quality of basic sanitation and health services have also degraded considerably.

      RAH
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #4
        Hopefully the wonders of capitalism soon can reap its benefits in the region... unfornately Israel and Palestinian Suicide Bombers are not allowing that to happen. I stand neutral. I am against both sides.

        It is tragic to see people not have jobs, and don't have enough to eat. Then they should be rebelling against Arafat and his terror network that have managed to throw their country into the ground. I don't care if they are rich or poor.

        That is my .02 cents, from a capitalist hardliner.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #5
          One of the things that the situation does is makes becoming a suicide bomber very attractive. Your family is starving (I've seen a report that as many as 80% of Palestinians live in poverty), but if you blow yourself up killing Israelis, Saddam Hussein will give your family between 5,000 and 25,000 dollars! Israel also alleges that Saudi Arabia is making similar payments to Palestinians (while the Saudis deny this, I believe the Israelis on this one). You family can live quite well off of your sacrifice.

          However, the threat that Hamas and Arafat face are from the fathers, who are going mad because they cannot feed their families. They are gathering in tents as a symbol of protest across Palestine to discuss their problems. Although the protestors take care to make sure they aren't linked with any faction, all of those in power are worried. Most revolutions start as bread riots.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            If the stop terrorism unilateraly, after couple weeks the IDF will leave their cities, month or two later it will return to the pre-intifada line, and a few years of peaceful protest later the Israeli public opinion will force a withdrawal from most of the territories.

            Or they can continue with terrorism and starve to death.
            "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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            • #7
              And Che, we agree on one thing, is that a family living off of that reward given because one member is a suicide bomber is very depressing. They need somebody to lead them and fast. Arafat obviously is not the person to do that. Somebody must stop the terrorism because Palestine looks like another mini-Afghanistan.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                but if you blow yourself up killing Israelis, Saddam Hussein will give your family between 5,000 and 25,000 dollars!
                Not anymore. Now his family will be arrested and his house destroyed.
                "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                • #9
                  One thing I've been curious about. How has the lack of Palestinean laborers affected the Israeli economy?

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                  • #10
                    Probably made a lot of jobs available to Soviet immigrants. There was a serious unemployment problem for them, but I'm just making an educated guess.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #11
                      No. we're importing "foreign workers" aka slaves from Eastern Europe , Africa, and the Far East ( actually , the later are doing pretty well. ) The latest suicide bombing hurt mostly the population of foreign workers. Unemployment levels remain high ,at 9.5% , but I imagine the real numbers standing at around 9% with some people declaring unemployment to get the welfare.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Eli


                        Not anymore. Now his family will be arrested and his house destroyed.
                        Eli, a major step in the right direction.

                        BTW, is there any non terrorist PA candidate that truly cares for the plight of Palestinian people.

                        I hope the Pals themselves arrest their terrorist leaders and put them all to death not only for their crimes against humanity, but because of the suffering they have caused the people of Palestine.
                        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dalgetti
                          No. we're importing "foreign workers" aka slaves from Eastern Europe , Africa, and the Far East ( actually , the later are doing pretty well. ) The latest suicide bombing hurt mostly the population of foreign workers. Unemployment levels remain high ,at 9.5% , but I imagine the real numbers standing at around 9% with some people declaring unemployment to get the welfare.
                          Slaves not Slavs?

                          Interesting, in another thread, we learned that a lot of Slav migrated to Greece in the early 600's prior to Heraclius restoring Roman fortunes. There Slavs became the field workers and the word "slave" was born.
                          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                          • #14
                            How can they revolt against Arafat with Israeli armour on the streets?

                            Arafat is Israels favourite punchbag. He'll stay.

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                            • #15
                              Ned , there are people that are interested in other things rather than terror. Unfortunately I suspect them , as most of the palestinian leadership to be highly corrupt. And yes, I meant slaves. The conditions in which these people work are terrible. But they do choose to stay here , that's true. I'd rather not have them here , at all.

                              How can they revolt against Arafat with Israeli armour on the streets?
                              It wasn't always like it is today . Israel started invading the palestinian cities only for a couple of months. The war is going on for almost two years now.
                              urgh.NSFW

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