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Do not get me started on Canadian election campaigns!
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
while I might agree that the US is too apathetic, I refuse to beleive that is a result of the more civilised nature of our political conflicts
Jon Miller
Jon, your political parties are so close to each other that there's no reason for spirited debate. Their campaigns have nothing to do with anything of substance, because platforms have nothing to do with who gets elected in the US.
When we have a change of governments, there's a real, identifiable change in national policies.
I know many families where the parents came illegal to the US and thir kids (my age) were born here
the percentage is just going up
and while I know that the immegrants are not resposible for a lot of the crime, the assimiliation of the immegrants is still an issue (relating to culture)
also (as you know) a big issue is the problems relating to the US being heavily capitalistic
you are capitalistic also, just not as much
this part of the reason for the US higher crime rates is not an aspect of our discussion on political maturity
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Calgary is the most capitalistic city in Canada, and has the lowest murder rate? It's also the fastest growing.
Capitalism has nothing to do with it.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I know many families where the parents came illegal to the US and thir kids (my age) were born here
the percentage is just going up
Jon, they get counted eventually. Whether it's the day they step off the boat or 10 years later makes no significant difference on the measurement of immigration rates.
Oh come on. The attacks against Clinton were pretty vicious. Your election ads are far more below the belt than is accepted in Canada.
but our politicians do not engage in them
that is the difference between civilised behavior and uncivilised behavior, whether you do your own dirty work, or someone else does it for you (when it needs to be done)
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Originally posted by Asher
I don't trust the capitalistic part.
Calgary is the most capitalistic city in Canada, and has the lowest murder rate? It's also the fastest growing.
Capitalism has nothing to do with it.
it has to do with income disparity
which is the largest reason for crime and conflict in the US
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
that is the difference between civilised behavior and uncivilised behavior, whether you do your own dirty work, or someone else does it for you (when it needs to be done)
Jon Miller
Like I said: false dignity. US politicians are all about style. They refuse to say what they think. Their speeches are exercises in blandness. Blech. It's duplicity.
Are you a communist, or have you ever been a member of...
hey, it took us a while to reach this level of civilised politicing
and we have farther to go (because politicing could be done with less dirty work)
but looking at the progressiong of things, you guys look like you are at where we were 137 years ago...
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
One thing that this thread has shown is that while Canadians will argue a lot among themselves, when faced with a challenge from outside, we tend to band together.
KH, I would disagree in part with your thoughts on US immigration. While your legalization or capture and send home idea is eventually true, it is a looking backwards way of including them. If the amount of illegals is large and growing, a forward-looking statistic will have to include them somehow in current rates.
that is the difference between civilised behavior and uncivilised behavior, whether you do your own dirty work, or someone else does it for you (when it needs to be done)
Jon Miller
Like I said: false dignity. US politicians are all about style. They refuse to say what they think. Their speeches are exercises in blandness. Blech. It's duplicity.
they focus on the important stuff, their platform (what they think) and yes style is important in civilised discourse
the personal attacks are just saved for their associates to deliver because it would be uncivilised for them to do so
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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