Why do canadians fight so much?

[KrazyHorse]

and some day, in the future, you will reach the US's level of maturity

I think you are heading there

Jon Miller

God help us if we reach your level of political apathy...I mean maturity.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Meanwhile in the states:

Murder rate per 100,000 people
Washington 69.3
Philly 27.4
Dallas 27.8
LA 22.8
Chicago 20.5
Pheonix 19.1
Houston 18
NY city 16.8

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...000/153988.stm

1.41 in Calgary, 69.3 in Washington DC? Holy ****.

New York's is surprisingly low, "only" at 16.8...

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


we tolerate beleifs here in the south

and have debates

we just do not get as catty about it

I distinctly remember using a marker of some sort in that post.

However, catty? Yes, we get catty, but what would you call your recent presidential election and the 'debate' surrounding it?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Jon,here's another fun fact: the population of Canada is more urbanised than the US, yet our total violent crime rate is ~80% of yours (source is the Montreal Gazette about 2 months ago).

And considering that our immigration rate is 60% higher than yours, this:

Some of the US issues with crime comes from growing pains because so many new people want to come here

is not a valid explanation.

but we are less picky about who gets in (admittedly not always are choice because we ahve such porous borders)

also, where did you get that immegration statistic? it does not seem right

Jon Miller

[RedFred]

The reason that murder rates are used to measure crime is because of reporting difficulties with other crimes. A murder will almost always get reported, but you would be surprised about the amount of other crime that doesn't get reported to the cops including major property crime and even assult and rape. In some countries domestic violence as an example, simply does not get reported.

[KrazyHorse]

but we are less picky about who gets in (admittedly not always are choice because we ahve such porous borders)

You're less picky than us? Hah!

also, where did you get that immegration statistic? it does not seem right

Look it up...

60% higher is a low estimate. IIRC, We have ~200 000 immigrants per year, you have ~1 million. Your population is 9 times ours...

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I distinctly remember using a marker of some sort in that post.

However, catty? Yes, we get catty, but what would you call your recent presidential election and the 'debate' surrounding it?

OK, the last presidential ellection was pretty bad, most agree with that

but the candidates still refrained from name calling and the like

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

but we are less picky about who gets in (admittedly not always are choice because we ahve such porous borders)

You're less picky than us? Hah!

also, where did you get that immegration statistic? it does not seem right

Look it up...

60% higher is a low estimate. IIRC, We have ~200 000 immigrants per year, you have ~1 million. Your population is 9 times ours...

you are not counting illegals

which put us far above your levels

Jon Miller

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by RedFred
Longstanding problems with Federal immigration screening has meant that several ethnic-based gangs exist and operate in Vancouver.

That's a bit out of date isn't it. I thought there are less problems with gang members being allowed into Canada now a days.

For example, there is the case of a Hong Kong actor who produced and starred in the biggest local movie last year. He was denied entry into Canada because of apparent triad links.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

and some day, in the future, you will reach the US's level of maturity

I think you are heading there

Jon Miller

God help us if we reach your level of political apathy...I mean maturity.

being civilised does not equal apathetic

while I might agree that the US is too apathetic, I refuse to beleive that is a result of the more civilised nature of our political conflicts

Jon Miller

[Asher]

New thread on murder rates: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=55412

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher


1.41 in Calgary, 69.3 in Washington DC? Holy ****.

New York's is surprisingly low, "only" at 16.8...

I live in the DC metro area now....

Jon Miller

[KrazyHorse]

Jon, you have no idea what you're talking about. Over long term, illegals are either absorbed as legals or deported. They have no long-term effect on actual immigration rates.

Plus, you'll find that immigrants actually commit less crimes per capita than native born Americans do...

[RedFred]

True Jon. We have a far higher rate of legal immigration than the States but I believe the US has a far higher rate of illegal immigration. But I doubt that the total rate for the US is higher.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


OK, the last presidential ellection was pretty bad, most agree with that

but the candidates still refrained from name calling and the like

Jon Miller

Oh come on. The attacks against Clinton were pretty vicious. Your election ads are far more below the belt than is accepted in Canada.