An Unborn Child is in Fact, Human

[Akka]

Originally posted by Sixchan
My system wouldn't force you to be happy either. You would be happy because you don't think that any other way of doing things would make you happier. If you don't know different, you don't want different.

Doh, that's exactly the meaning of forcing someone to be happy.

Your society deprive people of their free will, which is at least as bad as killing them, and probably much worse.
Your society is a paradox, because it destroy the only thing that justify its existence (people).

[Sava]

It's not surprising you don't know what's worse. It's like asking, what's worse... winning a billion dollars or finding true love?

Take off your blinders Akka le Vil, and open your narrow mind.

[Akka]

Originally posted by Sava
It's not surprising you don't know what's worse. It's like asking, what's worse... winning a billion dollars or finding true love?

Take off your blinders Akka le Vil, and open your narrow mind.

Sixchan talk to reduce people to small gears of a society, without free will, being formatted since birth to do what they are told to do.

You talk about a purely elitist society with second-rank people and constant judgement about how you live.

And I'm the one with narrow mind ?

[Akka]

"Reproduction would be IV in my society. A couple applies to have a child, and they are approved or disapproved according to the way they live their lives."

"My system would have more freedom than the US "democracy". "

May I laugh ?

[Sixchan]

People in my society are free to do whatever they want! Absolutely anything. It's just that they don't want to.

[Akka]

Originally posted by Sixchan
People in my society are free to do whatever they want! Absolutely anything. It's just that they don't want to.

Now... Seriously...
You don't even SEE why it's thousand times WORSE than a plain dictatorship ???

Oh my... This sicko talk about destroying the very essence of people and then consider that its society is "free"...

Go to see a psy and get a treatment.

[Sava]

You can laugh all you want. There are people in mental hospitals yucking it up with you. My system would have more freedom in regards to choosing the path of your life and living out your dreams. When society gets to a certain size, having children ceases to become a right and becomes a privilage. Overpopulation is a problem. Irresponsible parenting is a problem. For some reason you think that I have some huge screening process dedicated to only letting certain people have children. Yes and no... good, moral, responsible people can have children. If you are evil, immoral, and irresponsible, you cannot have children. But I guess you think that those things aren't important. In a perfect world, you wouldn't need a government to tell you who's evil, immoral, and irresponsible, and who's not. But this world isn't perfect. Neither is my world... but it's a step in the right direction. And yes, because you have no imagination and vision when it comes to solving problems, you are narrow minded. Instead of offering suggestions and constructive criticism, you insult. For that, you are narrow minded.

[Akka]

Yes and no... good, moral, responsible people can have children. If you are evil, immoral, and irresponsible, you cannot have children.

And who is about to judge what is "good, moral and responsible" ? And how ? I do believe in absolute Good and Bad, but I highly doubt that you have the same definition of it than I do.

And yes, because you have no imagination and vision when it comes to solving problems, you are narrow minded. Instead of offering suggestions and constructive criticism, you insult. For that, you are narrow minded.

Blowing hot air.

I suggest to improve the actual society and at the same time to respect the essence of humanity, and never to fall in an authoritarian society.

[Sixchan]

I would expect this reaction from you, Akka, since you haven't lived in it. To quote my avatar, 'Those who join us, need only give up half of their humanity. The illogical, ill-tempered, and disordered half commonly thought of as right-brain functioning. In exchange, the left-brain capacities are increased to undreamed potential. The tendancy of biologicals to cling instead to their individual personality, can only be attributed to archaic evolutionary tendancies.'

[Boris Godunov]

All societies have an authoritarian essence, that's what society is all about.

Society determines what is good and bad all the time, who's to say it can't do so in relation to people having children? We do so for other, less-critical things.

[Akka]

Originally posted by Sixchan
I would expect this reaction from you, Akka, since you haven't lived in it. To quote my avatar, 'Those who join us, need only give up half of their humanity. The illogical, ill-tempered, and disordered half commonly thought of as right-brain functioning. In exchange, the left-brain capacities are increased to undreamed potential. The tendancy of biologicals to cling instead to their individual personality, can only be attributed to archaic evolutionary tendancies.'

This can be summed up with : "become a machine and be happy because you have been programmed to be".

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Ramo
No, you were supposed to show why:
1. (A & B) -> C
2. ~(A -> C)
3. ~(B -> C)

That was the argument you were making earlier. I was wondering why each assertion is true.

which would be done by proving that (A&B) = C

Jon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Sava
I'd rather have a robot society than the one we have now... at least robots are logical and are smart.

Robots may be logical, but not necessarily smart.

[Sixchan]

"become a machine and be happy because you have been programmed to be"

Sounds accurate. It won't be long before machines surpass humans, and I don't want to be left behind. If we could download conciousness into self-sustaining robots, which could not be hacked into (but I don't think it will be so long before we can infiltrate the mind), I take it.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Sixchan
I've always been one for mass sterilization, and artificial reproduction of humans, thus eliminating the abortion problem.

Once you finish with the mass sterilization, where are you going to get the sex cells for reproduction?