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Originally posted by Cloud9
Like you would really know. You obviously never had the will to look for it.
I was raised as a Protestant.
Brainwashed? And how many times is that that you have insulted me?. . . I can't recall me ever insulting you, so please don't do it me. Thank you. I'm glad we have an agreement. Be .
You insult the intelligence of man with your drivel.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Asher
So what you're saying is the bible does not contain the wisdom and beliefs of God, but other people unrelated to God then?
(Quite frankly i knew this would hit me when i made that argument, i used to fear this argument)
The Old Testament has very little that i feel is relevant. It It was written by people who felt they were transmitting god's will to paper and by historians of the Jewish people (mostly jews at least) I instead focus on the new testament, the story of Jesus's life which was checked by several people, as there are 4 valid, non conflicting versions of it (assuming i can count) I obey the 10 commandments as God Wrote them himself but mostly focus on begging forgiveness, which jesus preached. What i'm saying is yes, the old testament very much is written by people like those described in ur post. And No i rarely trust 'em either.
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
As to what it matters, it might explain the juvenile nature of your thinking process. I was envisioning you as around 12, though. By 16 most people are able to see the obvious results of applying their own logic to those with different beliefs, and have thus started on their road to discovering the basis of a fair moral system.
And how old are you? by your own calculations i'd say 12.
Originally posted by Asher
I was raised as a Protestant.
Well, good luck in the afterlife then. I suppose you were never a good Protestant. Probably rebellious. You remind me of my little brother.
You insult the intelligence of man with your drivel.
I disagree with many men.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
What's the saying about leading an ass...sorry, horse to water?
The Old Testament has very little that i feel is relevant. It It was written by people who felt they were transmitting god's will to paper and by historians of the Jewish people (mostly jews at least) I instead focus on the new testament, the story of Jesus's life which was checked by several people, as there are 4 valid, non conflicting versions of it (assuming i can count) I obey the 10 commandments as God Wrote them himself but mostly focus on begging forgiveness, which jesus preached. What i'm saying is yes, the old testament very much is written by people like those described in ur post. And No i rarely trust 'em either
And where did you get the idea that God didn't create manking through evolution, then?
Originally posted by Cloud9
Well, good luck in the afterlife then. I suppose you were never a good Protestant. Probably rebellious. You remind me of my little brother.
No, I was never a "good protestant".
I was born something that the church frowns upon. We got off on the wrong foot, the church and I.
I'm hardly rebellious. Anything but. Most people on here probably know that by now.
You're the one that refuses to use MS products, remember?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
And where did you get the idea that God didn't create manking through evolution, then?
I commend you, that is an excellent point.
The CounterArgument:
If Evolution Was how a sentinent race was created by god then death was in the world before sin. As the Wages of sin are death it is illogical that death entered the world before sin.
Originally posted by Asher
You're the one that refuses to use MS products, remember?
Not so. And what does that have to do with religion anyway?
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Originally posted by Cloud9
Not so. And what does that have to do with religion anyway?
You posted a thread a while back saying you were going Linux-only.
And it had to do with your silly "you were raised religious and aren't now, so you're rebellious" argument.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
If Evolution Was how a sentinent race was created by god then death was in the world before sin. As the Wages of sin are death it is illogical that death entered the world before sin.
Could this be reffering to spiritual death? As in seperation from God?
What if your words could be judged like a crime? "Creed, What If?"
If Evolution Was how a sentinent race was created by god then death was in the world before sin. As the Wages of sin are death it is illogical that death entered the world before sin
That's the worst theological argument I've ever seen, and I've read Thomas Aquinas.
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