Why Convert?

[KrazyHorse]

Early christian art depicts the saved peering over the walls of heaven to mock the damned...

[SKILORD]

Cut it any way you want, but I don't think we should be teaching that God doesn't exist in school either[/quote]

I think they should avoid the subject at all costs. or at least stop indoctrinating children into evolution.

[Asher]

Originally posted by SKILORD
I think they should avoid the subject at all costs. or at least stop indoctrinating children into evolution.

When all signs in the world, and most people in the educated world, point to something, why should we not teach it?

Because an old book says otherwise?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
No, Athiests don't go door-to-door telling you that there is no God. Rather, they will walk up to your face, say your religion is ****, and call you and idiot for believing in something you can't see.

Hm, I smell a Hasty Generalisation here, if not a downright Red Herring.

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Athiests believe that they are the smart ones because they follow science.

Are you saying that Christians don't follow science at all?

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
I don't say they're wrong, and I don't say I'm right (and I am a strong believer in Evolution...as God's updating...Earth v5.0.)

Okay, what is your point?

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Lets see, how many times in this one thread have religious people been bashed.

None. Re-read your quotes again. They are all directed against an institutionalised belief, not against people.

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Seems to me that Athiests are JUST as pushy about their beliefs as Christians are.

This is just a reaction to Christian proselytisers.

At the very least, we don't tell people that they are to be blamed for things that they didn't do. We don't tell people that they are going to suffer eternally.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SKILORD
I think they should avoid the subject at all costs. or at least stop indoctrinating children into evolution.

And if somebody else comes up with a religion that says oh, I don't know, that Pi is exactly 3, we should avoid talking about Pi in school, right?

Come on. You have to try harder than this. Evolutionary biology is backed by a century of scientific evidence. If you think it's wrong, come up with some scientific evidence of your own and publish it in a respected peer-reviewed journal. Until then, you have no case.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by SKILORD
I think they should avoid the subject at all costs. or at least stop indoctrinating children into evolution.

Evolution is both a theory and a fact. What's your problem?

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by monkspider
Hey that wasn't nice Skilord, as Christians we should be ministering a campaign of love to non-christians, not one of fear.

what'd i do?

Asher, in this nation we have freedom of religion, if the christian parents of children cannot indoctrinate their children into their religion because the STATE who has vowed to stay away from the issue is telling them that everything their prents tell them are lies, that the world actually came together by chance and that life came from an assortment of chemicals and eventually evolved to humanity. well.... that violates freedom of religion doesn't it?

[KrazyHorse]

"indoctrinating children into evolution"

I love it.

Do we also indoctrinate children into believing that tool of the Devil, the theory of Universal Gravitation?

[KrazyHorse]

Asher, in this nation we have freedom of religion, if the christian parents of children cannot indoctrinate their children into their religion because the STATE who has vowed to stay away from the issue is telling them that everything their prents tell them are lies, that the world actually came together by chance and that life came from an assortment of chemicals and eventually evolved to humanity. well.... that violates freedom of religion doesn't it?

No, unless you can explain to me why we shouldn't avoid teaching children that Pi is irrational.

[Asher]

Asher, in this nation we have freedom of religion, if the christian parents of children cannot indoctrinate their children into their religion because the STATE who has vowed to stay away from the issue is telling them that everything their prents tell them are lies, that the world actually came together by chance and that life came from an assortment of chemicals and eventually evolved to humanity. well.... that violates freedom of religion doesn't it?

Evolution isn't religion.
If it conflicts with your religion I'd strongly recommend you take a good, long look at just how valid that religion is.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

In truth, there is lots and lots of evidence of the existence of God just as there is in Evolution. I just think that the problem is people just don't realize the evidence there is of God's existence. They don't see it, they don't understand it, and most don't even have the will to look for it. So it all comes down to, they just don't get it.

[Asher]

What evidence is there of the existence of God?

If there was evidence, it wouldn't be called faith.

Your "evidence" is "evidence" to you since you've obviously been brainwashed (for lack of a better word).

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by Asher

Evolution isn't religion.
If it conflicts with your religion I'd strongly recommend you take a good, long look at just how valid that religion is.

I can't see where validity of Religions is discussed anywhere in the constitution, where we are guarunteed freedom of religion.

Pi is a number, if it's inexactness bothers you look at it as how many radii make a circumfrence.

[KrazyHorse]

In truth, there is lots and lots of evidence of the existence of God just as there is in Evolution. I just think that the problem is people just don't realize the evidence there is of God's existence. They don't see it, they don't understand it, and most don't even have the will to look for it. So it all comes down to, they just don't get it

Scientific evidence? Let's define our terms. What is God?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SKILORD


I can't see where validity of Religions is discussed anywhere in the constitution, where we are guarunteed freedom of religion.

Pi is a number, if it's inexactness bothers you look at it as how many radii make a circumfrence.

There are major religions whose holy texts state that Pi is exactly 3. Teaching that it isn't violates their religious freedom, right?