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  • #151
    What this illustrates is that the "Christians start wars" argument is a load of old balls. I hold a theory that 100% of wars are started by ruthless bastards irrespective of race, religion, creed or condition of their Aunt Fanny's bowels, but I've never seen that used in an Apolyton debate.

    Funny, isn't it? Still, don't let it interrupt the game of "Pin the agenda on the donkey". I'm going to carry on drinking.
    The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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    • #152
      Funny, isn't it? Still, don't let it interrupt the game of "Pin the agenda on the donkey". I'm going to carry on drinking


      I know I'm a grovelling ****, but this is classic...
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
      Ultima Ratio Regum

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      • #153
        Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
        What this illustrates is that the "Christians start wars" argument is a load of old balls. I hold a theory that 100% of wars are started by ruthless bastards irrespective of race, religion, creed or condition of their Aunt Fanny's bowels, but I've never seen that used in an Apolyton debate.
        Even the crusades?
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #154
          Originally posted by Asher
          DinoDoc: Has anything changed, or are all of those quotes against Hitler being a Christian still hearsay?
          This article explains my views on whether or not Hitler was Christian or atheist.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #155
            Originally posted by Asher

            Even the crusades?
            Especially the crusades. Urban II was motivated 5% by religion, 30% by glory-hunting, and 65% by pure mercenary greed.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • #156
              Originally posted by Asher

              Reminds me of the "hate the sin, love the sinner" attitude most of you take with homosexuals. Awesome job.
              I think you need to stop laughing and start smiling, Asher. I fixed your quote to make it look better.

              And yes, God hates the sin, but loves the sinners. Even homosexuals. Want me to quote it?

              What's wrong with you, Asher? Can't love your enemies?
              HAVE A DAY.
              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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              • #157
                Originally posted by Cloud9
                I think you need to stop laughing and start smiling, Asher. I fixed your quote to make it look better.

                And yes, God hates the sin, but loves the sinners. Even homosexuals. Want me to quote it?
                I don't care what the bible says. The bible has as much relevance to my life as Tom Clancy's novels, and as far as I'm concerned they should be kept in the same section at the bookstore.

                What's wrong with you, Asher? Can't love your enemies?
                The better question would be what's wrong with the person who loves their enemies.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #158
                  Dino & Lincoln & et al...

                  Y'all can continue this circle jerk if you want (for the 83rd time... it's almost as vile as the "Communists or Nazis" debate), or you could do me the honor of responding to the Eisenhower quote over in the Pledge thread.

                  I've got just over 24 hours until I start the third year of med school, and as a result, promptly disappear from the internet for years on end. If you could do me that one kindness, I'd be forever in your debt. (Or, just acknowledge that I got ya... it's all good. )
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                  • #159
                    To Asher:

                    Nevermind, Asher. You just don't seem have any will power in you right now, but hopefully later in life you'll become more mature and will be better able to accept things as they are. To accept religious folks for who we are, not for the things we believe in. And you might even be able to just take a better look at yourself and realize that you do need religion in your life, but I'm not saying that's ever going to happen; you make your own choices. And whatever choices you make, you have to live with either the good things that come from them or the consequences.

                    By the way, I think it's highly unlikely that you'll be ever be able to change anyone's mind about religion around here (likely the same for me), so I suggest that you pack your bags and leave these religious threads. Besides, your getting to be a problem around here, especially when you go into your "raging firestorms" and do things that you think are right (spur of the moment kind of thing), but in reality are totally against the rules and immoral. Please try not lose control of yourself. Try to be pleasant and polite. If you do so, people will like you better, regardless of what you believe in.

                    You know, Asher, I gotta love ya. God forbid that I don't. But I just wish you would be a lot nicer person.

                    Peace.
                    HAVE A DAY.
                    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                    • #160
                      Originally posted by Cloud9
                      You just don't seem have any will power in you right now, but hopefully later in life you'll become more mature...


                      It's pretty damned hypocritical of you to burst into tears every time somebody "insults" you, and then insult the bejeezus out of somebody right back. It's also pretty two-faced to hide your insults in a "message of love."
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                      • #161
                        Excuse me? Was I speaking to you? NO!!! STAY OUT OF IT!!!
                        HAVE A DAY.
                        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                        • #162
                          Originally posted by Cloud9
                          Excuse me? Was I speaking to you? NO!!! STAY OUT OF IT!!!
                          Use private messages next time, then. Keep your hypocricy out of sight.
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                          • #163
                            Man, you whine to the mods, you don't get anybody on your side. It's like you're crying to mommy and daddy.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #164
                              Cloud9 is the most intelligent poster on Apolyton

                              Originally posted by Cloud9
                              Nevermind, Asher. You just don't seem have any will power in you right now, but hopefully later in life you'll become more mature and will be better able to accept things as they are.
                              Coming from the guy who frantically smashes the "REPORT THIS POST TO MODERATORS" button whenever he feels insulted?

                              To accept religious folks for who we are, not for the things we believe in.
                              Oh, I've got no problems with religious folks until they start talking about what they believe in.

                              And should you really be one to talk about this sort of thing? You don't accept homosexuals for who you are, right?

                              And you might even be able to just take a better look at yourself and realize that you do need religion in your life
                              I'm reminded of a certain quote involving a "crutch".

                              By the way, I think it's highly unlikely that you'll be ever be able to change anyone's mind about religion around here (likely the same for me), so I suggest that you pack your bags and leave these religious threads.
                              Just so you know, this thread is the one directed at atheists.

                              You're such a stunning intellectual.

                              Besides, your getting to be a problem around here, especially when you go into your "raging firestorms" and do things that you think are right (spur of the moment kind of thing), but in reality are totally against the rules and immoral.
                              Immoral, ah.
                              I'm a very bad person since I don't abide by your moral codes. I hope God forgives me when I slap his ass at the gates.

                              Try to be pleasant and polite. If you do so, people will like you better, regardless of what you believe in.
                              I'm not here for people to like me. If I wanted people to like me I'd never share my opinion on anything, that's the easiest way to go about it.

                              You know, Asher, I gotta love ya. God forbid that I don't. But I just wish you would be a lot nicer person.
                              You may think you're a nice person because you're "polite" and "respectful". You're not. You're being the very typical Christian by calling people like myself immoral, telling me I need religion in my life, and basically being a righteous bigot under the facade of my "nice, friendly neighbor". I've seen it all before, and it doesn't impress me.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #165
                                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                                Man, you whine to the mods, you don't get anybody on your side. It's like you're crying to mommy and daddy.
                                You underestimate me, I will COMPLAIN about you. That's all there is to it.

                                It's so rude to insult someone, especially to a man of the church. Insults may not offend others, but religious folks are easily offended by it. You have to be careful who you talk to.
                                HAVE A DAY.
                                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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