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  • Well only because there weren't any atheists before, or very, very few...
    Speaking of Erith:

    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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    • Do you have statistics, RJ?
      Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
      "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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      • Originally posted by Asher
        Hitler was a Christian.
        Night of 11th-12th July, 1941

        "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
        "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
        "Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."


        10th October, 1941, midday

        "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."


        14th October, 1941, midday

        "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
        "Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
        "...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
        "Christianity the liar....
        "We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."


        13th December, 1941, midnight

        "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... transubstantiation>....
        "When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease."


        Source: Hitler's Table Talk (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953)
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • Originally posted by Asher
          Hitler was a Christian.

          Some of his quotes:

          From Mein Kampf:


          From a speech in 1922:


          Hitler is also quoted as saying:

          (Source: Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, Oxford University Press, 1942)
          Hitler obviously did not believe in free will, in which the Bible clearly says that people can believe in whatever they want to believe, but of course there's only one belief system that is correct.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • Originally posted by Lincoln
            Look at a teapot. The lid fits on a rim that is smaller that the diameter of the vessel. Or you can have a vessel that has a rim that is larger than the diameter of the vessel like some vases.
            Lincoln, all of this is irrelevant. There are those who hold a religious belief that Pi=3. Does this preclude us from teaching that Pi is an irrational number?
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • As you can see by Dinodocs post, Hitler was quite a corrupted man. Certainly you don't believe in Hitler's ways, do you Asher?
              HAVE A DAY.
              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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              • Frankly, I've always found any attempt at conversion, be it Christian to atheist or visa versa, to essentially being a long, frustrating attempt at masturbation without anything to show for it at day's end.
                "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                  Lincoln, all of this is irrelevant. There are those who hold a religious belief that Pi=3. Does this preclude us from teaching that Pi is an irrational number?
                  I only entered this discussion to correct an obvious error that comes from trying to interpret a book without reading it in context or understanding its spiritual nature. Someone said that the Bible can be made to say almost anything, and that is true. But those who claim that it is inaccurate ought to study it for a few years before they make complete fools of themselves.

                  I don't claim to know the exact interpretation in all instances but I do know enough about it to say that it cannot be disected correctly by someone whose intention is to ridicule it. The Bible says plainly that the message is hidden from the non-spiritual. And people can believe anything they want but that does not change reality.

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                  • I'm not trying to ridicule the Bible; I'm demonstrating that a major segment of your society believes (or believed until fairly recently, at least) that Pi = 3. I was then asking Skilord to apply his reasoning as to why evolutionary biology shouldn't be taught in school to this subject, something he refused to do (he tried to draw attention off the question by starting a separate argument that the Bible shouldn't be interpreted to meant Pi = 3).
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • What exactly is Pi? That rings a bell somewhere, but I just can't get it out.
                      HAVE A DAY.
                      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                      • Hey Lincoln, have you checked your PM's lately?
                        HAVE A DAY.
                        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                        • Originally posted by Cloud9
                          As you can see by Dinodocs post, Hitler was quite a corrupted man. Certainly you don't believe in Hitler's ways, do you Asher?
                          What a sleazy thing to say. Nowhere did Asher say he had any sort of agreement with the views of Hitler. This is a plain nasty statement. Very un-Christrian of you.
                          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                          • [SIZE=1] Originally posted by The Emperor
                            An attack against a belief is an attack against the people who believe it.
                            BZZZZZ no it isn't. 100% wrong. You can attack any idea or belief without attacking the people who believe it. That's how we got away from the whole earth-is-flat and -earth-revolves-around-the-sun nonsense.

                            If you take someone using scientific reason to question your beliefs as an insult, that's your problem, not his.
                            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                            • Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                              What a sleazy thing to say. Nowhere did Asher say he had any sort of agreement with the views of Hitler. This is a plain nasty statement. Very un-Christrian of you.
                              Well, excuse me. No one is perfect.
                              HAVE A DAY.
                              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                              • Originally posted by Cloud9
                                the Bible clearly says that people can believe in whatever they want to believe, but of course there's only one belief system that is correct.

                                Reminds me of the "hate the sin, love the sinner" attitude most of you take with homosexuals. Awesome job.

                                DinoDoc: Has anything changed, or are all of those quotes against Hitler being a Christian still hearsay? All of the public records show Hitler proclaiming himself to be Christian (see my quotes), but somewhere along the lines "private conversations" were unveiled by Christians which "proved" that Hitler was atheist.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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