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How so? You spent less than .5% of pre-junior high school math learning algebra and geometry?
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"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I ment less than .5% of my time in high school doing things with the intent to prepare for the SAT."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
"At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
"Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
"In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General LuddComment
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Why do you say that the school had no intent whatsoever in preparing you for the SAT when they taught you algebra and geometry?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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Because they would teach that anyway and they did nothing extra during that time to prepare for the SAT. Not even tests or homework had SAT type questions.
On the other hand, my two AP classes that I've take (English Language and US History) were highly focuses on preparing for the exam last May."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
"At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
"Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
"In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General LuddComment
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1. It's an aptitude test, not an acheivement test.
2. HS taught Algebra and Geomotry before the SAT was widely used.
3. If the SAT went away, do you think Algebra and Geomtry would vanish? Now really!!??Comment
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-True, but if one doesn't take Algebra II, one might have some problems. Same way that a 1540 doesn't get you in, but the lack of it might hurt.Whether or not one takes vector calc or linear algebra in high school really is irrelevent to most places
-Well, are there winding streets with blind corners and no sidewalks?It isn't safe in Houston either. That didn't stop me.
-Debate is reading from cards, which is by default mechanical. It depends largely on how fast you can read and what cards you have and how fast you can find them. My intelligence didn't do me much good because I could hardly shuffle through my disorganized papers fast enough, and I certainly didn't enjoy it. Without cards it would be fun, but with... (There's something vaguely disturbing about debating whether expanding NATO to the Baltics would topple Yeltsin or not, and whether or not this was a good thing).If debate was mechanical, then you were doing it all wrong. Though there are set times, debate should be far from mechanical.
-You obviously don't know my school. I could have been #1, if I went to my home school, but being in the magnet program sort of closed that chance down. I would have had to be better than the best in the state to be #1 on our team, and I am lazy enough for that to be impossible. Certainly the move to Georgia led to a stagnation of my math abilities that made that impossible... had I stayed in Massachusetts... oy, how different life would have been.#2 on the math team still seems bad."The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan RobinsonComment
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What do you mean? Multiple choice?Not even tests or homework had SAT type questions.
Incidentally, I've never taken a practice AP test in my AP US history class.On the other hand, my two AP classes that I've take (English Language and US History) were highly focuses on preparing for the exam last May.
That doesn't imply that the schools necessarily see it that way...1. It's an aptitude test, not an acheivement test.
The SAT is a baseline test.2. HS taught Algebra and Geomotry before the SAT was widely used.
3. If the SAT went away, do you think Algebra and Geomtry would vanish? Now really!!??
If calculus were in the SAT, do you seriously doubt that school curriculums would change."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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-Yes, but it tends to discourage post-Geometry math learning.1. It's an aptitude test, not an acheivement test.
2. HS taught Algebra and Geomotry before the SAT was widely used.
3. If the SAT went away, do you think Algebra and Geomtry would vanish? Now really!!??"The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan RobinsonComment
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1. You're whining a bit there, son. Try not to let people see that.Originally posted by Victor Galis
-Well, are there winding streets with blind corners and no sidewalks?
2. I bike from downtown to Decatur frequently (use a light at night and go on College Ave.)
3. I see an aweful lot of MARTA busses roaming around...you might have a walk at one end...but still definitely doable.Comment
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Do IQ tests discourage people from learning facts/methods?Originally posted by Victor Galis
-Yes, but it tends to discourage post-Geometry math learning.
Anyway, who cares. It's a free country.Comment
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That is all you had to deal with? Wow. My walk includes the side of a toll road, a trailer park, and a train depot.Originally posted by Victor Galis
-Well, are there winding streets with blind corners and no sidewalks?
If you are reading from cards, you suck. I just used my head and got 3rd in district last year. I would have won if the judges were a little more fair and I had a water bottle.Originally posted by Victor Galis
-Debate is reading from cards, which is by default mechanical. It depends largely on how fast you can read and what cards you have and how fast you can find them. My intelligence didn't do me much good because I could hardly shuffle through my disorganized papers fast enough, and I certainly didn't enjoy it. Without cards it would be fun, but with... (There's something vaguely disturbing about debating whether expanding NATO to the Baltics would topple Yeltsin or not, and whether or not this was a good thing).
By bad I mean in terms of usefulness. If you are going to be on a "math team," be the best.Originally posted by Victor Galis
-You obviously don't know my school. I could have been #1, if I went to my home school, but being in the magnet program sort of closed that chance down. I would have had to be better than the best in the state to be #1 on our team, and I am lazy enough for that to be impossible. Certainly the move to Georgia led to a stagnation of my math abilities that made that impossible... had I stayed in Massachusetts... oy, how different life would have been."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
"At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
"Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
"In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General LuddComment
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Cbeast!“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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Got some facts to back that up, son? It didn't discourage your or me or Ramo.Originally posted by Victor Galis
-Yes, but it tends to discourage post-Geometry math learning.
Sure it didn't encourage them either. but lack of encourageing is not the same as discouraging. Let people do what they want. Not everybody is a 1540 math geek...Comment
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Missed it.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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Basically. Also, none of the questions were made to be exactly like an SAT question but without multiple choice.Originally posted by Ramo
What do you mean? Multiple choice?
You should have. I hope your teacher at least told you what the essay would be about beforehand.Originally posted by Ramo
Incidentally, I've never taken a practice AP test in my AP US history class."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
"At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
"Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
"In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General LuddComment
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