Pledge of Alligiance - Unconstitutional?

[The Emperor Fabulous]

a federal appeals court in San Fransisco has ruled that the pledge of alligiance is unconstitutional due to the addition of "under God", and therefore cannot be recited in schools

Just heard it on CNN...what does this mean for our youth?

[Sava]

It's about time. I never said the pledge when I was in school.

[DinoDoc]

That's getting appealed. The SCOTUS has already affirmed the legality of the national motto and I doubt that they are in any mood to change it now given the composition of the Court.

[Boris Godunov]

Even requiring students to make the pledge, with God in it or not, is unconstitutional. I got in trouble in 3rd grade for not wanting to say it. I was forced to write an essay on why it was so important, blah blah blah. Made me more against it than ever.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

I stated the pledge, but always dropped "under God," when they had us recite it. For that, I look a fair amount of ridicule from some of my... less competent clasmates.

[Sava]

The principal tried to make me say the pledge, and then write an essay, but I didn't do either.

[DinoDoc]

Ok, I've done some research on this case and it really does seem like it is extremely outside the mainstream of Constitutional law and it is very likely to be overturned, especially given the Court that handed it down.

[Sprayber]

Re: Pledge of Alligiance - Unconstitutional?

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
a federal appeals court in San Fransisco has ruled that the pledge of alligiance is unconstitutional due to the addition of "under God", and therefore cannot be recited in schools

Just heard it on CNN...what does this mean for our youth?

Perhaps this is the same court that is described here.

Six days before Sept. 11 purged much of the silliness from public life, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, famously imaginative and frequently reversed, outdid itself. Rummaging around in the U.S. Constitution, it discovered that male inmates in prisons have a "fundamental" right to procreate by artificial insemination.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59014-2001Nov7

As for the topic. Millions of Americans have no problem with reciting the pledge and forgetting about it later on thus going on with their lives. Boris, I am sorry that you were traumatized by your experience. In my school we said the pledge as well and there were two kids that did not because of religious reasons of all things and they just sat there quitely for the few seconds it took to recite it and had no problems. You just had bad teachers.

[DinoDoc]

Re: Re: Pledge of Alligiance - Unconstitutional?

Originally posted by Sprayber
Perhaps this is the same court that is described here.

That's the one. The judges on that court seem to be quite the masochists given how much that seem to enjoy being spanked by the Supremes.

[Bereta_Eder]

In Greek courts you have the right to swear either

a) on the bible (new testament I think)

or

b) on your honour

[Bereta_Eder]

(if you dont believe in God).

[Lincoln]

I am not surprised at anything the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals comes out with. If they shipped this whole court to Cuba or China the locals there would hardly know the difference.

[Bereta_Eder]

Still the Hellenic Constitution is in teh name of theholy cobsustantial and indivinsible trinity.

which by some is not correct since it is religious.

but what i say is: these are the customes

let the americans take out the in god we trust from their banknotes first

[Bereta_Eder]

what's next? taking the CROSS out from our FLAAG??!!

Our jolly archbishop proclaims.




which looks like this.

One "revolutionary artist" (Panoussis) replaced the cross with the sickle and hammer and painted it red to advertise one of his theatrical satyre plays and got busted

(charged by some for desecretion of national symbol - was acquited i think).

[Lincoln]

I think the 9th circuit court also outlawed all of our money...