Muslim Visitors to US Treated Like Criminals

[Boris Godunov]

Pretentious, I think you mean.

Whoa, that was pretentious, too...

So what is stopping Muslim extremist terrorist groups, if this becomes policy, from just having non-Arabs who don't fit the profile be their attackers? Doesn't seem to hard to get around it.

[DanS]

"Pretentious, I think you mean."

No, I mean presumptuous, Mr. Malapropism.

[Boris Godunov]

What on earth is it presuming?

Seems more like it's pretending...

a) 75% of refugee-seekers that enter Canada do so via the US.

Hehehe, reminds me of Simpsons edisode when they went to NYC. Bart, up in the Statue of Liberty, shouts out to a boatload of incoming refugees, "Sorry, America's full!"

Ship captain: Well, you heard the lady. Guess we'll try Canada!

*Chorus of disappointed groans and moans*

Lady: Aaaaawww no want to go Canada!

[DanS]

"What on earth is it presuming?"

To bear the plaque of an immortal who was entrusted with the Third Age of Middle Earth?

I rather view him as a lesser mortal. Maybe a shirriff?

[KrazyHorse]

Basically. We've got more liberal immigration and refugee policies, so a lot of people try the US, are rejected and then come to us for succor. Apparently the new agreement will stop that. I find it hilarious that Ned feels there's a problem with people landing here and then trickling down south when things are the other way 'round.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by DanS
"What on earth is it presuming?"

To bear the plaque of an immortal who was entrusted with the Third Age of Middle Earth?

I rather view him as a lesser mortal. Maybe a shirriff?

I still think pretentious fits better:

pre-ten-tious (adj.) - 1 making claims, explicit or implicit, to some distinction, importance, dignity or excellence. 2 affectedly grand, ostentatious.

Whereas presumptious means being too bold or forward, taking too much for granted.

Now who's Mr. Malapropism, beyaaaatch!

[DanS]

"overstepping due bounds" you dictionary-thumper.

[Boris Godunov]

Bzzzz! Nope, doesn't work...it is meant as in taking upon one's self to do something beyond the realm of one's ordinary duties or overstepping the bounds of societal propriety.

You clearly meant he was being pretentious, as he is implying some sort of wisdom or grandeur by using an avatar of Gandalf.

Thanks for playing.

(This is all in fun, I don't care which words you use incorrectly, really. )

[KrazyHorse]

presumptuous

adj : excessively forward; "an assumptive person"; "on a subject like this it would be too assuming for me to decide"; "the duchess would not put up with presumptuous servants"

It is pretentious of Ned to think himself wise. It is both presumptuous and pretentious for him to take it upon himself to call himself wise.

[Dr Strangelove]

Would it be better if we simply sharply reduced the number of Visas given to people originating in Muslim countries? Perhaps we could limit permission to enter the US from those countries to people who can prove that they have a bone fide business reason to enter the US. Since it takes two to do business they would have to supply confirmation form a source within the US.

[Boris Godunov]

End immigration entirely, Dr S? Uh...

[DanS]

Christ on a bike! It is pretentious of Boris to think he can master 4 syllable English. It is presumptuous of Boris to put words in my mouth.

I'm going to bed.

"Would it be better if we simply sharply reduced the number of Visas given to people originating in Muslim countries?"

I don't think it would hold over time, Strangelove. Would you refuse visas for vacationers from Saudi Arabia? If so, how would you compensate the Northern Virginia upscale boutiques?

As a legal matter, we could probably do what we like.

[Ned]

I heard the data about the 15 hijackers coming from Canada on the Bill O'Reilly show. The articles cited by KH do not dispute this. They merely state that the hijackers did not "sneak" into the U.S. across the Canadian border.

The problem with Canada according to O'Reilly is that Canada gives refuge to undocumented aliens seeking refuge. Since 9/11, at least 2500 came from Arab or Muslim countries.

If the US seriously clamps down on visitors from these countries, the terrorist will simply go to Canada, get Canadian documents, rent a car, and drive into the U.S. KH, if you don't think this will happen, tell us why.

And I really wish you would stop it with your ad hominem attacks.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by DanS
Christ on a bike! It is pretentious of Boris to think he can master 4 syllable English. It is presumptuous of Boris to put words in my mouth.

Um...no, you'd want to use "presumptious" in both regards, in this case.

Please come again!



(Hey, we sons of English teachers can't help ourselves...)

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
End immigration entirely, Dr S? Uh...

No, just regulate immigration and visitation from Muslim countries more tightly. Basically you only let in the rich from those countries. Yes, this legally can be done because the Supreme court has repeatedly asserted that it has no juisdiction over immigration policy. Perhaps in the face of this sugggestion fingerprinting doesn't sound so bad.