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  • blackice, by your continued posting do you realize you're only strengthening my resolve to stop giving money outside of the province?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • you reafirm my belief that kids such as you should have jobs and pay their way through school. Have a national referendum on national history and it's accuracy and "stupid people should not breed" should be a national focus.
      “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
      Or do we?

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      • Originally posted by Asher

        By that logic the Canadian government owns my wristwatch as well?

        Alberta has all rights to its oil, legally. Whether it's in Canada or not is irrelevant.
        Is your wristwatch crown property? No. Your analogy is terrible.

        Mineral rights are derived from crown ownership of land. The jurisdiction over the mineral rights of that land is dealt with by the provincial government on behalf of all Canadians, not just those who happen to live in a given province.

        The rights to that oil only belong to the Albertan government until it sells the rights to a private company. At that point the buyer owns the rights to the oil so to say that Alberta has all rights to its oil is incorrect.
        Golfing since 67

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        • The rights to that oil only belong to the Albertan government until it sells the rights to a private company.

          Nope they have the right to extract and process but not own...That is where royalities come into focus and alberta is screwing thier people and the nation in that regard...Call it alberta stuborness at the cost of it's own people....
          “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
          Or do we?

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          • blackice and Asher... would you two just chill.
            Keep on Civin'
            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • Originally posted by Tingkai
              Mineral rights are derived from crown ownership of land. The jurisdiction over the mineral rights of that land is dealt with by the provincial government on behalf of all Canadians, not just those who happen to live in a given province.
              Where does it say that?
              From everything I've read, all it says is the provinces get the right to the minerals. What they do with it is up to them.

              The rights to that oil only belong to the Albertan government until it sells the rights to a private company. At that point the buyer owns the rights to the oil so to say that Alberta has all rights to its oil is incorrect.
              So then how does Alberta collect royalties?
              I don't think you know too much about how this works.
              The companies by the rights to extract the oil, not own the land.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • ming: blackice and Asher... would you two just chill.

                you know what they say, politics, religion and....
                “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                Or do we?

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                • The companies by the rights to extract the oil, not own the land.

                  They can even own the land which they do sometimes but not the mineral rights or natural resources.
                  “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                  Or do we?

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                  • Originally posted by blackice
                    ming: blackice and Asher... would you two just chill.
                    you know what they say, politics, religion and....
                    That's not the response I was looking for... have you ever heard the term... "you are on thin ice" before
                    Keep on Civin'
                    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • While you're here can you do a DL check, Ming?
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • Originally posted by Asher
                        While you're here can you do a DL check, Ming?
                        Hmmm... after checking, you don't have one
                        Keep on Civin'
                        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • many times, many, many times my dear Ming.

                          I don't supose the humor we exude in our post's are the cause of your concern? Personally I would be commenting on the lack of response. Just my humble opinion...

                          Of course we reap what we sow right? So In your opinion who reaps and who sows... That is of course mear opinion right?
                          “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                          Or do we?

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                          • I have no idea what he just said.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • That deserves a big grin...At least you are consistant and admit you have no idea
                              “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                              Or do we?

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                              • Originally posted by Asher
                                (PS: The low budget figures you used in BC are due to the quasi-conservative government that is now in power, and has cut government spending left and right shaving billions off of the budget -- try looking at their budget from 1999 or so when they had the NDP.
                                Actually, IIRC the budget figures I cited were from the last NDP budget.

                                The Campbell government were elected in May 2001. The budget numbers cited were for the fiscal year 2001-02 so I believe that would mean that the budget was created by the NDP.
                                Golfing since 67

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