Bisexual?

[Jon Miller]

I have nothing against women with straight hair

I however, prefer my partners have curly

I have nothing against vanilla, I, however, prefer Chocolate

there is no reason to beleive from Boris's posts that he has anything against bisexuals

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I have nothing against women with straight hair

I however, prefer my partners have curly

So why do you find curly hair more attractive, and why does this apply when the split-second you start dating her her hair gets curly?

I have nothing against vanilla, I, however, prefer Chocolate

And you do have something against vanilla if you prefer chocolate. Vanilla tastes bad to you (duh).

[Jon Miller]

no

I like vanilla fine

if tere was only vanilla I would take it

I just prefer Chocolate and take it over Vanilla

so I do not have something against vanilla

Jon Miller

[Asher]

So you think chocolate tastes better than vanilla, which means you have something against vanilla (which is it does not taste as good).

You gotta think deeper than the surface, Jon.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

So why do you find curly hair more attractive, and why does this apply when the split-second you start dating her her hair gets curly?

Some are not interested in perms or curls which were not a natural part of her.

However, I still maintain that it is not an issue, because what attracts me to her in the first place is the curly hair.

Jon Miller

[Asher]

So you would disagree that it's shallow to be only attracted to people with curly hair?

[Jon Miller]

so anytime I have a preference for something, I ust be against the other thing (and not only againstit for the area I have a preference for, but against it in all things).

Perhaps a better example would be that I would choose chocolate over vanilla everytime it was served plain. But if I was having pie with the ice cream I would have no preference (I have no idea how I would have no prefrence but lets say I did)

See, in everything in life, along every subject matter and in every possible choice I have to make I have preferences (of different strengths). They are what make me a unique individual and I defend my right to have whatever preferences I choose (within reason).

Jon Miller
(BTW, the hair example is getting to messy)

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher
So you would disagree that it's shallow to be only attracted to people with curly hair?

most definitely

it would be like only being attracted to funny people

it is a part of what makes me me (once more within reason)

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
so anytime I have a preference for something, I ust be against the other thing (and not only againstit for the area I have a preference for, but against it in all things).

This example is already too messy, I have no idea what you're saying.

(BTW, the hair example is getting to messy)

I thought it was a good example, considering that I shot it down.

[Jon Miller]

no you didn't

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Jon: Is only dating people with curly hair shallow or not?

If yes, my point is proven.
If not, what drug are you on tonight?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

This example is already too messy, I have no idea what you're saying.

I was commenting on how blind you were being

as I said

I have preferences in all choices in life

and this is a good thing

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Yes, and the sky is generally blue.

I think the problem here is you don't know what this debate is about.

It's okay and normal to have preferences, but when somebody comes up and openly states they WILL NOT date someone who is bisexual, or who does not have curly hair -- I think that's being incredibly shallow and immature.

That's what this is about, not about chocolate vs. vanilla.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Asher
Not wanting to date someone because they're black is discriminating against someone.

Some people are just not attracted to black people. I can't say why that is, but that is something beyond their control and to judge them for it is foolishness. Small-minded foolishness. Not wanting to date someone who you are not attracted to is, I will wager, accepted as every person's right.

Not wanting to date someone because they're bisexual is discriminating against someone.

Only if the rationale is that bisexuals are somehow bad, unfaithful, evil, etc. That is not my rationale, it is not monkspider's rationale, nor anyone elses that I have seen. You're inability to see anything beyond your own "It must be HATE" shows you're small-minded.

It's not that difficult a concept.

Most erroneous ones aren't.

You have a right to discriminate about who you date, and I have a right to hate you for it.

Spoken like a fanatic. What a wonderful thing to think. Thank god most people are far more rational than you.

There is simply no way to rationalize it, it's all based on irrational emotions.

That's what love/dating in general is all about, irrational emotions. You might as well hate the guy who doesn't want to date the overweight girl. You're being foolish.

That's like saying I choose not to date black people because it's my personal choice of who I want to date, nothing else.

Which is perfectly fine, it's everyone's right. But nobody here has ever said anything of the kind, only that for WHATEVER reason, you have no right to judge them.

That makes sense, but for people to say something like that they've obviously got some problem with black people, or in this case bisexuals.

No, the only thing that is obvious is that they do not want to date a bisexual, for reasons which they alone need worry about. The rest is...none of your business.

You know me, the resident Apolyton homophobe.

Well, the comment was quite rude and seemed rather homophobic in nature. Without you giving a massive explanation of why I shouldn't think you're homophobic, I will have to assume you are. After all, you're doing the same thing to me.

Okay -- let me get this straight (no pun intended).
You, a homosexual, are telling me, a bisexual, what it's like to be bisexual?

A statement you made seem to indicate that being bisexual was solely based on having slept with someone of each gender. I was pointing out that is bull****. I am 100% gay, but I have slept with a woman in the past. Being gay has nothing to do with who I have slept with, and neither does being bisexual.

When you enter a monogamous relationship with a bisexual, then yes, the person's heterosexual side is not even present for the term of the relationship, because it's a monogamous relationship between two men.

If you're asserting that the bisexual partner loses all attraction for females in such a case, I will call you a liar right here and now. I have plenty of bisexual friends (ones who have a lot of experience, too), and they would all laugh their asses off at this assertion.

Oh, give me a break, you were rude and insulted me when you said you wouldn't date bisexuals because they're bisexuals. Are you that blind?

One day, kemosabe, you will learn the difference between a personal attack and statement of general belief/preference. I am not the blind one here.

Ah, so perhaps we can go discuss this with an 80 year old homophobic Nazi and see what his opinion of the matter is. After all, he's had far more experience in life than the both of us.

A specious argument, but I would certainly seek out an 80 year old bisexual who had experience for his thoughts

Bastard.

Child. We can consider this discussion closed, as you are incapable of civil discourse.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher
Jon: Is only dating people with curly hair shallow or not?

If yes, my point is proven.
If not, what drug are you on tonight?

I pointed out that for the purposes of our argument it was the same as only dating funny people

as such, not shallow

also, I do not (and have never) used drugs

and have a preference that those I date do not either (despite being ok with freinds using a bit (emphasis on a bit) of marijuana

Jon Miller