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  • Apologies for not being on topic here, but I have to reply to this:

    Sava:
    The figures below are from official Serb census figures -

    1913 497,456 - No breakdown
    1921 439,010 - (Albanian)65.8, (Serb)26.0, (Turk)6.4
    1931 552,064 - (Albanian)60.0, (Serb)32.6. (Other)7.4
    1948 733,034 - No breakdown
    1953 815,908 - No breakdown
    1961 963,988 - (Albanian)67.2, (Serb)23.6, (Other)8.6

    I have figures for '48 quoted by some Serb author who was implying the same deliberate birth policy you seemed to be implying for the Albanians that gives them ~500,000 to ~200,000 Serbs.

    I fear your Almanac has dodgy figures.

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    • . The bill says that Israeli should NEVER recognize a Palestinian state


      Siro , it is the UN's operation in Cambodia , in the 90s. Read about that case . What a **** up.
      urgh.NSFW

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      • the middle eastern conflict ended when Panathinaikos beat Macabi and everyone else for that matter

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        • I think that war is good for extrem-right Israeli wings :
          1) Give them a justifications to not allow Pals to have a territory.
          2) Give justifications to continue settlement policies.

          I don't think Israel whish to give back the occupied territories.

          The Israeli gouvernment knows perfectly that nobody can stop terrorists actions while pals people are suffering from oppressions and from lakes of gouvernmental structures.

          Let's create a Pals nation, send a tierce organization for peace keeping job and disarming terrorist groups.
          Zobo Ze Warrior
          --
          Your brain is your worst enemy!

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          • yeah right.

            the terrorist groups weren't disarmed by IDF, so they will be disarmed by a bunch of piss assed weenie pacifists.

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            • Siro,

              What do you want to happen? Realistically, that is. Option 1) Status quo. Option 2) Withdrawl, Pal state, UN peacekeepers. Option 3) Total war.

              Choose, or present a realistic alternative. Inquiring minds wanna know.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • Originally posted by Sirotnikov
                yeah right.

                the terrorist groups weren't disarmed by IDF, so they will be disarmed by a bunch of piss assed weenie pacifists.
                Would you care to comment on the actions of the "piss assed weenie pacifists" in Bosnia, Kosovo or East Timor?

                It almost seems you believe your brave, fierce, victorious IDF as done anything yet to achieve a glimpse of peace or even security for that matter. Or are you trying to convince me that, after "Operation Defense Wall" you feel safer?

                Next time, don't ask for solutions if that's the only kind of response you have for honest proposals.

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                • Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
                  Would you care to comment on the actions of the "piss assed weenie pacifists" in ... Kosovo ...?


                  They provided the KLA with a base from which they were able to destablise Macedonia.

                  Would you care to comment on thier actions in Lebanon?
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                  • Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
                    Or are you trying to convince me that, after "Operation Defense Wall" you feel safer?
                    I feel much safer.
                    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                    • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
                      Would you care to comment on the actions of the "piss assed weenie pacifists" in ... Kosovo ...?


                      They provided the KLA with a base from which they were able to destablise Macedonia.
                      Any news on the terracts performed by KLA activist is Macedonía?

                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Would you care to comment on thier actions in Lebanon?
                      Would you care to provide a date?

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                      • Originally posted by Eli
                        I feel much safer.
                        No longer afraid some crazy one blasting himself and you/your loved ones in your favourite pub, in the grossery shop or while you're waiting for the bus?

                        Good for you!!!

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                        • The ruling Likud party comes out and says 'we don't want peace, and we never will', and people act suprised
                          I am, since it was Netanyahu (of all people) who signed Oslo. I always believed he was more a man of peace (or less a man of war) than Sharon. Seems I was wrong.
                          Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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                          • Re: Re: Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

                            Originally posted by frankychan


                            I hear that.

                            I think it's time the Palestinian people establish a country of their own. True, the Palestinian terrorists are horrible people, but the civilian pop is suffering.

                            I was watching interviews w/some Israeli's and they said that they didn't care, all they wanted was to live their lives in peace and not think about the next bombing.

                            *** Israeli militants, *** Sharon.

                            (but the average Israeli [and Palestinian] are aiight, its just the govt officials that suck ***)
                            hi ,

                            well with all the land in the arab world , .......that they give a piece , ......and if their civpop is suffering , ...

                            egypt had the gaz for a couple years , what did they do , nothing , when the Israeli's moved in they where welcomed by the local's , ......and they brought along , water , sewage , telephone , roads , railroas , medical care , and so on , ...

                            maybe Israel should start to kick out all the ones who claim to be palestinian , but have nothing to do with them , like people from jordan , iraq , and so on , .....this way the paletinian numbers are cut down with a third , .....

                            and their is hope on the 12th the parlement has voted a new law , the removal of all illegal aliens , ........
                            its a given fact that 67% of the crimes are comited by people from other countries , .....

                            oh yeah , there are a lot op "palestinians" abroad in the arab world , but no where else then Israel they can vote , .......

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                            • I may be mistaken but, to me, Netanyahu, is simply the kind of man that says just about anything to be elected. And now, he's after Sharon's place.

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                              • Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
                                Would you care to provide a date?
                                UN Probes Hezbollah Video Bungle
                                BBC
                                July 12, 2001
                                The United Nations has opened an internal investigation into what it described as the "mishandling" of a videotape that may provide clues about the abduction of Israeli soldiers by Lebanese militants. After months of denying the existence of the footage, the UN last week offered to give Israel a censored copy - with faces blurred - in response to demands from the Israeli Government.

                                A spokesman for Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Wednesday that the UN was "embarrassed and its credibility was hurt by what appears to be a mishandling of this event".

                                The UN is caught between a rock and a hard place over the video, with Israel demanding the unedited footage and Hezbollah saying that handing it over would effectively make the UN spies for Israel.

                                Possible Leads

                                The video - made by UN peacekeepers some 18 hours after three Israeli soldiers were abducted in October - shows vehicles allegedly used by Hezbollah guerrillas. It is also reported to show the faces of guerrillas who prevented the UN peacekeepers from salvaging the vehicles as evidence. The videotape may support the Israeli allegation that the kidnappers were disguised as UN troops.

                                UN Under-secretary-General Joseph Connor is to head the probe and has been ordered to report "as soon as possible", Mr Annan's spokesman Fred Eckhard said.

                                Israeli Praise

                                Israeli Defence Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer praised the UN decision to open an inquiry, an Israeli newspaper reported. But he repeated Israel's demand for "the entire videotape and any other information concerning the capture of the soldiers".

                                There has been outrage in Israel that the UN at first denied the existence of the 30-minute video film, which may provide clues as to the fate of its soldiers. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon reportedly exchanged "harsh" words with Mr Annan by telephone late on Monday. Mr Annan has reportedly apologised to Mr Sharon for the UN's initial denial that the tape existed.

                                Suspicions

                                Ordinary Israelis are deeply suspicious of the UN, which they say is dominated by countries hostile to the Jewish state. Many suspect its peacekeepers of taking bribes from Hezbollah not to interfere in last October's abduction - a charge the UN categorically denies. Many Palestinians, on the other hand, feel that UN is an American - and therefore pro-Israeli - lap-dog.

                                Hezbollah is still keeping the men in a secret location and has refused to provide any information about them or a fourth Israeli captive until Israel agrees to release Lebanese prisoners it is holding as "bargaining chips" for missing Israeli servicemen in Lebanon.

                                Although nine months have passed since the soldiers were abducted, Israel believes the video-tape may provide new clues for its analysts.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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