Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

[MOBIUS]

Re: Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

The Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

Well those Zionists still want their 'Greater Israel'...

Anyone who still thinks the Israeli's are anything other than oppressors is really living in a different world. I really don't think there is any difference anymore between the Serbs during the Kosovo war, and Israel today. The Serbs also refused a creation of a seperate autonomous Kosovo, same as with Israel and Palestine today. Also, the Serbs used military force to stop "terrorists" in that territory, like Israel is doing. Both also commited warcrimes. The only difference are the American double standards.

Interesting you should compare Israel to Serbia seeing as during the whole Bosnia-Herzegovina thing Israel was supplying arms to the Bosnian Serbs - the very same people guilty of the massacres of thousands at Srebrenica etc...

[Sava]

Originally posted by ranskaldan


So, the 90% Albanians in Kosovo are all illegal immigrants, right?
Also, explain why, with about a 10% Serb population, is Kosovo permanent, immutable, forever, Serbian land.

40 years ago the Albanian population in Kosovo was 20 percent. Screwing like rabbits and becoming the majority doesn't give you the right to steal another country's land. BTW, the literacy rate in Albania is 4%... 70 percent of the population is under 15. Can you really blame the Serbs for their concern?

Therefore, denying them a Pal state would be sending them the message that the Pals should all lie down and act like docile sheep?

They shouldn't be denied a state. I'd be the first to vote for a Pal state if it were up to me. But they shouldn't get it just because they are commiting terracts. Bring the leaders of these terror groups to justice (maybe turn them over to the UN, not Israel) then they can have their state.

SM: The info I have on Kosovo comes from my cousins, aunts, and uncles who live there. I know a lot more about the truth from that region than what you see on CNN.

[Sava]

Re: Re: Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

Originally posted by MOBIUS


Well those Zionists still want their 'Greater Israel'...

There are extremists everywhere. The Zionists aren't in control of the government.

Interesting you should compare Israel to Serbia seeing as during the whole Bosnia-Herzegovina thing Israel was supplying arms to the Bosnian Serbs - the very same people guilty of the massacres of thousands at Srebrenica etc...

Wrong.... the incidents of massacres were over publicized and were not controlled acts of terror directed at civilian population. The vast majority (75-80 percent) of the people in the mass graves were armed Albanian and Muslim resistors who aggresively attacked and murdered Serbs. The media in the West never mentioned the hundreds of incidents involving Serbian women and children raped and murdered by Albanians. It is like the Israel/Pal conflict. The Serbs killed armed Albanian gunmen who killed Serb women and children.

I don't blame you for your ignorant knowledge on the Balkan region. The media in the West is to blame.

[Kropotkin]

The media in the West is to blame.

Witch of cource shoud/could be counterbalanced by turning to the other extreme...

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Witch of cource shoud/could be counterbalanced by turning to the other extreme...

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Could you be more specific? What is the other extreme? The media in the Mid-East?

[Kropotkin]

Serbian national press...

[MOBIUS]

Re: Re: Re: Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

Originally posted by Sava
There are extremists everywhere. The Zionists aren't in control of the government.

Anyone that makes Sharon look like a moderate is an extremist IMO and that is a gigantic understatement!!!

Wrong.... the incidents of massacres were over publicized and were not controlled acts of terror directed at civilian population. The vast majority (75-80 percent) of the people in the mass graves were armed Albanian and Muslim resistors who aggresively attacked and murdered Serbs. The media in the West never mentioned the hundreds of incidents involving Serbian women and children raped and murdered by Albanians. It is like the Israel/Pal conflict. The Serbs killed armed Albanian gunmen who killed Serb women and children.

I don't blame you for your ignorant knowledge on the Balkan region. The media in the West is to blame.

Albanians? Albanians??? Wot fackin' Albanians!!???

I'm talking about the Bosnia-Herzegovina conflict NOT Kossovo, but then I don't blame you for your ignorant knowledge of the Balkan region...

You remember Srebrenica don't you? The UN designated safe area where the Dutch troops stood by and watched as the Serb irregulars rounded up about 7,000+ Moslem men and boys and systematically executed them!!?

THAT is why there is an election in the Netherlands this week! Some might say that if it were not for Srebrenica Pim Fortuyn might not have been assassinated...

Don't bother replying unless by some miracle you decide to grow a brain...

Albanians?

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Serbian national press...

OH, LOL...

no my info is from first-hand accounts. My cousin Miodrag is a policeman in Beograd.

[Sava]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

Originally posted by MOBIUS


Anyone that makes Sharon look like a moderate is an extremist IMO and that is a gigantic understatement!!!



Albanians? Albanians??? Wot fackin' Albanians!!???

I'm talking about the Bosnia-Herzegovina conflict NOT Kossovo, but then I don't blame you for your ignorant knowledge of the Balkan region...

You remember Srebrenica don't you? The UN designated safe area where the Dutch troops stood by and watched as the Serb irregulars rounded up about 7,000+ Moslem men and boys and systematically executed them!!?

THAT is why there is an election in the Netherlands this week! Some might say that if it were not for Srebrenica Pim Fortuyn might not have been assassinated...

Don't bother replying unless by some miracle you decide to grow a brain...
Albanians?

You obviously can't read.... "Albanians and Muslims"... I guess I can't expect anyone like you to be anything more than completely ignorant anyways. Good luck with donating your brain to science.

:b

[Kropotkin]

All respect to your cousin but he alone is hardly a objective source...

[MOBIUS]

As for Kossovo

I'm actually one of those that believe that Serbia was butt-f*cked by the West...

I'm still waiting for the US to bomb the crap out of Israel and shatter it's infrastructure killing thousands of civilians in the process...

No wait - Israel is allowed to attack defenceless US ships for hours on end and get away scott free!

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
All respect to your cousin but he alone is hardly a objective source...

His whole family lives there also. I'm sure its not completely objective. I tend to listen to him and his Point of View, and then the media, then I form my conclusions based on the info I have. His POV is usually in the middle of the Western Media and the Serb Nat. Press. I tend to trust the things he says if they are a combination of what both extremes say.

[Sava]

Re: As for Kossovo

Originally posted by MOBIUS
I'm actually one of those that believe that Serbia was butt-f*cked by the West...

I'm still waiting for the US to bomb the crap out of Israel and shatter it's infrastructure killing thousands of civilians in the process...

No wait - Israel is allowed to attack defenceless US ships for hours on end and get away scott free!

Maybe you're not all bad

[Tolls]

Sava:
"40 years ago the Albanian population in Kosovo was 20 percent. "

Rubbish...The Albanian population of Kosovo was about 2/3rds after WW1, in other words a majority. This remained pretty much the case until after WW2, when their percentage began to increase.

Where did you get 40% from??

[MOBIUS]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Israeli governement won't allow the creation of a Palestinian state.

Originally posted by Sava
You obviously can't read.... "Albanians and Muslims"... I guess I can't expect anyone like you to be anything more than completely ignorant anyways. Good luck with donating your brain to science.
:b

Someone dropped you from a great height onto your noggin didn't they???

Almost all Albanians ARE Moslems! I was actually sparing you yet more proof you're spouting out of your ring...

The Moslems we're talking about here are Bosnian Moslems - any Albanians living there would be pretty far away from home, regionally speaking...

Face it, you jumped to conclusions about exactly which conflict I was talking about and promptly fell flat on your face and compounded the matter by attempting to ridicule me. But instead of admitting your mistake you decided to continue to dig a hole for yourself with your "Albanians and Muslims" comment...

Now do you see why I said you shouldn't reply unless you grew a brain...?